Thank you for the clear, fair and concise article. In quite alot of reactions I read about whether Yoo is fine, whether the punishment is too harsh and what not.
Although I hope the system gets changed to avoid these incidents in the futher (it really has to!), emotionally I really just hope the female player is alright and can feel safe again. I would have difficulty going to my next tournament for sure.
Much love to her, and brave for speaking out.
Thank you for the clear, fair and concise article. In quite alot of reactions I read about whether Yoo is fine, whether the punishment is too harsh and what not.
Although I hope the system gets changed to avoid these incidents in the futher (it really has to!), emotionally I really just hope the female player is alright and can feel safe again. I would have difficulty going to my next tournament for sure.
Much love to her, and brave for speaking out.
Hmmmm...not good at chess...yet still hundreds of rating points ahead of you in bullet and would be more if I was not on tilt? ;)
Just sayin'.
Anyhow, yes it should be reported outside of the chess world as well. But that does not make this "drama for attention".
Hmmmm...not good at chess...yet still hundreds of rating points ahead of you in bullet and would be more if I was not on tilt? ;)
Just sayin'.
Anyhow, yes it should be reported outside of the chess world as well. But that does not make this "drama for attention".
@DoomedBishop said in #3:
I find it troubling that he was charged only with 4th Degree Assault in that one case. I understand he was upset, but that does not excuse physically assaulting someone. Once again, a privileged man gets to walk...
Reported for sexism
@DoomedBishop said in #3:
> I find it troubling that he was charged only with 4th Degree Assault in that one case. I understand he was upset, but that does not excuse physically assaulting someone. Once again, a privileged man gets to walk...
Reported for sexism
@MDmate said in #99:
I suspect GM Yoo has problems with both emotional regulation and reading social cues. He is likely on the Autism spectrum. Chess is often a safe venue for people on the spectrum. HE clearly needs help managing these issues. He is clearly talented in the chess realm but failing miserably in the real world. I hope that he gets the help that he needs before his career is totally ruined. Obviously, his behavior is inexcusable and could land him in jail one day.
You don't get it. None of the details matter. He made a women uncomfortable and thus should be banned for 5 years.
@MDmate said in #99:
> I suspect GM Yoo has problems with both emotional regulation and reading social cues. He is likely on the Autism spectrum. Chess is often a safe venue for people on the spectrum. HE clearly needs help managing these issues. He is clearly talented in the chess realm but failing miserably in the real world. I hope that he gets the help that he needs before his career is totally ruined. Obviously, his behavior is inexcusable and could land him in jail one day.
You don't get it. None of the details matter. He made a women uncomfortable and thus should be banned for 5 years.
@Jbramel said in #103:
Reported for sexism
I'm struggling to see how what doomedbishop said was sexist.
@Jbramel said in #103:
> Reported for sexism
I'm struggling to see how what doomedbishop said was sexist.
@Jbramel said in #104:
You don't get it. None of the details matter. He made a women uncomfortable and thus should be banned for 5 years.
typical oversimplification by someone who clearly doesn't want to understand.
@Jbramel said in #104:
> You don't get it. None of the details matter. He made a women uncomfortable and thus should be banned for 5 years.
typical oversimplification by someone who clearly doesn't want to understand.
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@QueenRosieMary said in #91:
I think you are talking about last year's alleged assault on the videographer?
This article is because of the new, 60-day suspension handed out by FIDE in relation to this incident but also a much more recent allegation of harassment which was a few weeks ago. As mkubecek points out, the suspension is not the punushment but to safeguard the integrity of the investigation and also to protect players in the interim period.
Also, asking anyone who disagrees with you to "hold their tongue" is not how civilised debate works.
And to make it clear, no one, and certainly not me, is advocating for any hate to be directed towards anyone, on the contrary.
Whilst I think the events I have written about are shocking, we should at all times remain considerate and respectful towards all the involved parties in our discussion.
Sorry if I sounded harsh. I hate arguing, and some people aren't keeping this civilized. You're right, I am thinking of last year's incident, but he's still on trial, and will most likely be punished. But most of this conversation hasn't been civilized. I'd recommend taking this message board down. Talking about his misdeeds won't solve any problems, and you can tell tempers are starting to simmer.
@QueenRosieMary said in #91:
> I think you are talking about last year's alleged assault on the videographer?
>
> This article is because of the new, 60-day suspension handed out by FIDE in relation to this incident but also a much more recent allegation of harassment which was a few weeks ago. As mkubecek points out, the suspension is not the punushment but to safeguard the integrity of the investigation and also to protect players in the interim period.
>
> Also, asking anyone who disagrees with you to "hold their tongue" is not how civilised debate works.
> And to make it clear, no one, and certainly not me, is advocating for any hate to be directed towards anyone, on the contrary.
>
> Whilst I think the events I have written about are shocking, we should at all times remain considerate and respectful towards all the involved parties in our discussion.
Sorry if I sounded harsh. I hate arguing, and some people aren't keeping this civilized. You're right, I am thinking of last year's incident, but he's still on trial, and will most likely be punished. But most of this conversation hasn't been civilized. I'd recommend taking this message board down. Talking about his misdeeds won't solve any problems, and you can tell tempers are starting to simmer.
It seems unlikely he would be going to " doctors" if there were not some kind of issue ?
There are many kinds of " doctors"
It seems unlikely he would be going to " doctors" if there were not some kind of issue ?
There are many kinds of " doctors"
@Chesskid3000 said in #108:
Sorry if I sounded harsh. I hate arguing, and some people aren't keeping this civilized. You're right, I am thinking of last year's incident, but he's still on trial, and will most likely be punished. But most of this conversation hasn't been civilized. I'd recommend taking this message board down. Talking about his misdeeds won't solve any problems, and you can tell tempers are starting to simmer.
You think this is uncivilised? Maybe you didn't follow the discussion on some of my other blogs, they were a lot worse, for example:
https://lichess.org/@/QueenRosieMary/blog/breaking-the-silence-online/h9S8jea9
and
https://lichess.org/@/QueenRosieMary/blog/you-can-run-but-should-you-hide/idI8xIQZ
I don't agree that shutting down discussion about these types of issues in chess is a constructive way to go. I am sure there are people, perhaps those that like the status quo, where harassment of women at chess tournaments is deeply embedded in the chess culture, who would love to stifle the debate, but I am not one of them.
@Chesskid3000 said in #108:
> Sorry if I sounded harsh. I hate arguing, and some people aren't keeping this civilized. You're right, I am thinking of last year's incident, but he's still on trial, and will most likely be punished. But most of this conversation hasn't been civilized. I'd recommend taking this message board down. Talking about his misdeeds won't solve any problems, and you can tell tempers are starting to simmer.
You think this is uncivilised? Maybe you didn't follow the discussion on some of my other blogs, they were a lot worse, for example:
https://lichess.org/@/QueenRosieMary/blog/breaking-the-silence-online/h9S8jea9
and
https://lichess.org/@/QueenRosieMary/blog/you-can-run-but-should-you-hide/idI8xIQZ
I don't agree that shutting down discussion about these types of issues in chess is a constructive way to go. I am sure there are people, perhaps those that like the status quo, where harassment of women at chess tournaments is deeply embedded in the chess culture, who would love to stifle the debate, but I am not one of them.