The fact that women are put through hell (not just in chess) just because they're female is insane. People like this put a permanent stain on the chess community.
The fact that women are put through hell (not just in chess) just because they're female is insane. People like this put a permanent stain on the chess community.
@MidwestGroyper said in #77:
He knocked on a door saying "housekeeping" and touched someone's shoulder? That's harassment? He attacked a videographer, that's an actual crime. This though, is just nonsense
Why are you defending this disgusting excuse of a chess player and human being??
@MidwestGroyper said in #77:
> He knocked on a door saying "housekeeping" and touched someone's shoulder? That's harassment? He attacked a videographer, that's an actual crime. This though, is just nonsense
Why are you defending this disgusting excuse of a chess player and human being??
People, he definitely made a terrible mistake, but let's keep this civil. Let's not go too far, or start arguments. He did something wrong, he was punished. Let that be the end of it. I understand that it was TERRIBLE to commit assault just for losing a game, but he was banned from participating in tournaments for a year. By the way, I am NOT defending him. I'm just saying that there's no reason to hate him more. It doesn't solve anything. Please don't argue this point with me. If you disagree, please hold your tongue, I have no desire to get in an argument on whether we should hate a fellow human being.
People, he definitely made a terrible mistake, but let's keep this civil. Let's not go too far, or start arguments. He did something wrong, he was punished. Let that be the end of it. I understand that it was TERRIBLE to commit assault just for losing a game, but he was banned from participating in tournaments for a year. By the way, I am NOT defending him. I'm just saying that there's no reason to hate him more. It doesn't solve anything. Please don't argue this point with me. If you disagree, please hold your tongue, I have no desire to get in an argument on whether we should hate a fellow human being.
@Destroyer942 said in #64:
I used to be in the same chess camp as Christopher Yoo. He was pretty quiet at first glance, but anyone who interacted with him could tell you about how arrogant he was. Unfortunate to see him in the news again doing something out of line. He always saw winning as the most important thing, and it looks like now as an adult he has issues with proper ettiquette and self control. As chess coaches, it is very important that our students not only improve, but also learn the importance of respectful and ethical behavior. That being said, Christopher Yoo might be on the spectrum at least from what I observed. I hope his doctors help him regulate himself better in the future.
On the spectrum? Yes, he seems to have some social awareness and other issues, though perhaps that is simply inattention. From my psychiatrist, channeled hyperactivity is a thing (Hyperactivity channeled into a productive pursuit) and his etiquette issues may also be hyperactivity-impulsivity.
Besides, it may not be autism spectrum; it may be ADHD or narcissistic personality disorder (the arrogance, entitlement, etc.) or maybe even some sort of mood disorder otherwise specified considering his emotional problems.
While he may be on the spectrum, there are other disorders that we need to consider. I also hope his doctors can help him receive the right treatment for him.
@Destroyer942 said in #64:
> I used to be in the same chess camp as Christopher Yoo. He was pretty quiet at first glance, but anyone who interacted with him could tell you about how arrogant he was. Unfortunate to see him in the news again doing something out of line. He always saw winning as the most important thing, and it looks like now as an adult he has issues with proper ettiquette and self control. As chess coaches, it is very important that our students not only improve, but also learn the importance of respectful and ethical behavior. That being said, Christopher Yoo might be on the spectrum at least from what I observed. I hope his doctors help him regulate himself better in the future.
On the spectrum? Yes, he seems to have some social awareness and other issues, though perhaps that is simply inattention. From my psychiatrist, channeled hyperactivity is a thing (Hyperactivity channeled into a productive pursuit) and his etiquette issues may also be hyperactivity-impulsivity.
Besides, it may not be autism spectrum; it may be ADHD or narcissistic personality disorder (the arrogance, entitlement, etc.) or maybe even some sort of mood disorder otherwise specified considering his emotional problems.
While he may be on the spectrum, there are other disorders that we need to consider. I also hope his doctors can help him receive the right treatment for him.
@ChessNutAryan said in #81:
The fact that women are put through hell (not just in chess) just because they're female is insane. People like this put a permanent stain on the chess community.
You do realize that the worst place on earth for women's rights is India right? Not the chess world. Feminists in the western world have no grounds to complain. India and the middle east are the real patriarchy.
@ChessNutAryan said in #81:
> The fact that women are put through hell (not just in chess) just because they're female is insane. People like this put a permanent stain on the chess community.
You do realize that the worst place on earth for women's rights is India right? Not the chess world. Feminists in the western world have no grounds to complain. India and the middle east are the real patriarchy.
Oh c'mon why this random shade on India and the Middle East? What do they have to do with this?
Oh c'mon why this random shade on India and the Middle East? What do they have to do with this?
If he's Autistic, it's still not really an excuse, as it seems that quite a lot of chess players also have it, since then they can focus better and calculate, memory etc...
If he's Autistic, it's still not really an excuse, as it seems that quite a lot of chess players also have it, since then they can focus better and calculate, memory etc...
@LOLATOCTOBERJOINDATE said in #85:
You do realize that the worst place on earth for women's rights is India right? Not the chess world. Feminists in the western world have no grounds to complain. India and the middle east are the real patriarchy.
We should not care about the rights of women in the chess world because the situation for women in some countries might be worse?? What kind of bizarre logic is that!? FIDE and the chess players are responsible for the situation in chess, women playing chess have every right to have exactly the same conditions as men and if there is a problem with that then the feminists are completely right to complain about it.
@LOLATOCTOBERJOINDATE said in #85:
> You do realize that the worst place on earth for women's rights is India right? Not the chess world. Feminists in the western world have no grounds to complain. India and the middle east are the real patriarchy.
We should not care about the rights of women in the chess world because the situation for women in some countries might be worse?? What kind of bizarre logic is that!? FIDE and the chess players are responsible for the situation in chess, women playing chess have every right to have exactly the same conditions as men and if there is a problem with that then the feminists are completely right to complain about it.
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@CyberShredder said in #80:
Having mental problems, autism, age isn't an excuse that he can make to himself, but an excuse that society can give to him when considers what kind of punishment he deserves.
Punishment is only one side of the coin. In this case the suspension likely to come is going to serve not only as a punishment but also - and perhaps even more - as a measure of protection of potential future victims. Even in "normal world", if someone commits a serious crime but is found not responsible for their actions because of psychiatric conditions, they may not end up in regular prison but usually are detained or have court ordered treatment.
Chess authorities do not have such power (thankfully) but they can - and should - suspend a player who poses a potential danger to others. And a player who is unable to control himself enough not to transgress like this before his suspension for the first act of unprovoked violence is over is apparently a potential danger, whatever the reasons are. Or would you prefer to say: "Girls, there is this guy who might possibly hit you or harrass you sexually but it's because of this and this condition so that he should not be punished; just live with it."
@Chesskid3000 said in #83:
He did something wrong, he was punished.
Only true for the first incident (and even that only within USCF), not for the second.
@CyberShredder said in #80:
> Having mental problems, autism, age isn't an excuse that he can make to himself, but an excuse that society can give to him when considers what kind of punishment he deserves.
Punishment is only one side of the coin. In this case the suspension likely to come is going to serve not only as a punishment but also - and perhaps even more - as a measure of protection of potential future victims. Even in "normal world", if someone commits a serious crime but is found not responsible for their actions because of psychiatric conditions, they may not end up in regular prison but usually are detained or have court ordered treatment.
Chess authorities do not have such power (thankfully) but they can - and should - suspend a player who poses a potential danger to others. And a player who is unable to control himself enough not to transgress like this before his suspension for the first act of unprovoked violence is over is apparently a potential danger, whatever the reasons are. Or would you prefer to say: "Girls, there is this guy who might possibly hit you or harrass you sexually but it's because of this and this condition so that he should not be punished; just live with it."
@Chesskid3000 said in #83:
> He did something wrong, he was punished.
Only true for the first incident (and even that only within USCF), not for the second.