@QueenRosieMary said in #67:
> I agree, that it should not be automatic for the reasons you state, but anything serious should perhaps be immediately reported to and reviewed by FIDE who could have the option of an emergency temporary suspension while they investigate.
In cases like this it might help if FIDE Ethical comission could choose to extend a suspension by national federation proactively, without having to be explicitly asked to do so. Or perhaps even act proactively even if the national federation does not. My point is that just as I agree with the point of comment #66 about the possibility of a national federation sanctioning a player for dubious reasons (political, personal, ...), I can also imagine an opposite case ("He did wrong, sure, but we have to be careful, we don't want to weaken our national team.")
Christopher Yoooo what are you doing?
@herohousetp said in #69:
> Wait, why was he so mad after losing to Caruana? Was he winning but then blundered badly? Just to make sure, he was mad in St. Louis because he lost to Fabi?
This is the game:
https://lichess.org/broadcast/us-chess-championship-chessdomcom/round-5/eNx5vPk3/qiYEjOz6
He was +1 around move 15 and then slowly got outplayed to equal before blundering the game.
@WildWizard said in #2:
> I hope he gets his title revoked for a whole 2 years and is banned from playing chess OTB for 2 years.
> This type of behavior from a GM is most unacceptable.
Me too.
of course like 30% of the comments are absolutely deranged lol, shows us why women don't play chess and why this happens so often
He knocked on a door saying "housekeeping" and touched someone's shoulder? That's harassment? He attacked a videographer, that's an actual crime. This though, is just nonsense
@CyberShredder said in #18:
> Well, he has mental problems and apologized for previous incident. Also some benefit of a doubt can be given, I mean how much story is true, if we are given a whole part.
I mean, there were a lot of other witnesses that vouched for her, so I think whatever he did is probably pretty well documented at this point. Enough that he doesn't need much benefit of the doubt.
> Age is important factor as well, even though he is 19. Because when I was a kid, playing actively, there were quite a few kids, who were either arrogant, antisocial, had emotional control problem. I am not ideal myself in that regard. Chess is a great game which brings social interaction but nobody can promise that it will be healthy, especially in a competitive atmosphere.
I personally don't like the "he's just a kid with mental problems" defense. When you turn 18, you are old enough to vote, give your life for your country in the military, marry, drive for two years already, create a will, and in some countries, also drink and smoke. You cannot really argue that someone old enough to do all of that cannot also understand something basic such as the fact that you do not take your anger out on others.
He was old enough. There's no need to really defend him here.
@LOLATOCTOBERJOINDATE said in #55:
> Nieman, Ivanov, that's 5 seconds off the top of my head. My original post got censored though so I probably can't say more even if it's logical.
I've heard the autism defense before and I honestly think it's all bs. All the autistic friends I have are incredibly respectful, and in fact, much more so than the average person. They know better than anybody else to respect boundaries, and have amazing self-control. They have never let being non-neurotypical get in their way of being an awesome friend, and honestly, they do a much better job of being respectful than "normal" humans.
Autism doesn't cause harassment. And it should never be used as a defense. That's probably why your original post got deleted.
@MidwestGroyper said in #77:
> He knocked on a door saying "housekeeping" and touched someone's shoulder? That's harassment? He attacked a videographer, that's an actual crime. This though, is just nonsense
You are right about one thing, [physically] attacking people is a crime.
And an adult man trying to force and deceive his way into a woman's bedroom / hotel room for ten minutes, when she has clearly told him repeatedly that she is not interested and to leave her alone, is terrifying to be quite frank.
Why do you think he wanted to get into her bedroom? We may never know, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't to do anything good.
Touching women in certain ways when they don't want to be touched is very much harassment, if you have never been a woman in that position, it is hard to explain to you. We are not talking about a handshake here.
@greenteakitten said in #77:
> I mean, there were a lot of other witnesses that vouched for her, so I think whatever he did is probably pretty well documented at this point. Enough that he doesn't need much benefit of the doubt.
Not enough for me. That's why I said if we are given full context or not
@greenteakitten said in #77:
> I personally don't like the "he's just a kid with mental problems" defense. When you turn 18, you are old enough to vote, give your life for your country in the military, marry, drive for two years already, create a will, and in some countries, also drink and smoke. You cannot really argue that someone old enough to do all of that cannot also understand something basic such as the fact that you do not take your anger out on others.
Having mental problems, autism, age isn't an excuse that he can make to himself, but an excuse that society can give to him when considers what kind of punishment he deserves. And you can find it everywhere. Even in law, social/family background, age is considered when punishing.
> He was old enough. There's no need to really defend him here.
Yeah there is, because some people in this thread propose harsh punishments. And they assume worst of him. If he was as dangerous as some people here think he is, he would be in prison already.
One person already made a point, that in chess world we have people cheating (read: scamming people for big money) in tournaments online/OTB and they get second, third chances.