Can't create game with specific side any more

you know, I may see some logic in not allowing to have white, but what is this "fair" argument to do with black? LOL, you just find any excuse to find a change in code good. No matter what!

@bububulin said in #59:

In such case, turn auto off and bring back color select rather than this despotic nonsense.

Why should they invest in this? You can just fairly play with both sides like everyone else :)
Your need to get a few extra ratingpoints shoud not burden others to work and accommodate this

berserker mode isnt fair (considering rating), as you just lower your chances if you do. Thats a much bigger issue!

@Munich said in #63:

berserker mode isnt fair (considering rating), as you just lower your chances if you do. Thats a much bigger issue!

Beserker mode is only allowed in some tournaments, and both players know they are BOTH given the option to trade time for tournamentpoints (not ELO).

Forcing others to play you at a disadvantage consistently is not the same thing as both having the option of beserking

that is bs. you can simply not accept an open seek, too, where someone does want to be white/black. Freedom is there, too, like berserker, you can do or not.

@Munich said in #65:

that is bs. you can simply not accept an open seek, too, where someone does want to be white/black. Freedom is there, too, like berserker, you can do or not.

Except Lichess matches you on time control if you are in the lobby and someone happens to seek the same time control. There was no way of shielding against color abuse. It's fixed now, be thankful for it and let's move on.

when you chose to accept a challenge against someone who wants to be black, you can not say there was no way for you, there was no shield?

Simply dont accept! and with berserk, you are not forced to re-berserk, you can enjoy the advantage. Dont give me that. Berserker lowers the rating of the berserking player. Yes, he can gain more tournament points, but it does hurt his rating.
Sandbagging isnt allowed, but berserk has been around, and its fun for some, so ye, let it happen. Same goes for white/black.
Some simply like to train their repertoir, test it against various players. let it happen.

oh, and it is still possible, just with handselecting players via invites. And those who get invited, I dont know why they accept, but they then sometimes resign after a few moves when they are aware it is a slow game. So it wasnt the color, but the time control.

You dont believe me? do this experiment: invite 20 players (dont wait until they accept) to a bullet game 0-1 (1 sec increment, starting with 3 sec). Invite a lot of players that are lower rated than you.

Most of them lose on time within 2-5 moves. Dont tell me they knew what they were doing when accepting.

@dionlemton said in #60:

This is a much better solution. Now it is fair by default, and you can seek people who are willing to play your odds at your leisure

Ah yes, because your forced leisure is better than mine. Also this makes it impossible to practice openings for the sake of you feeling comfy

it is like that: handselected invites are much more prone to "abuse". If you offer an open challenge and you want to be black, you will get opponent who are aware of that.
With handselected invites, its a bit like - "I cant remember him, but obviously he knows me? its probably a friend, I just dont remember? Better I accept"

@bububulin said in #68:

Ah yes, because your forced leisure is better than mine. Also this makes it impossible to practice openings for the sake of you feeling comfy

I was already comfy. Now fair players are just shielded and those who prefer to have odds need to find people that are willing to give it. It is a perfect solution, keeps everybody honest and it doesn't abuse unwilling players.

I'm glad they did it, it only goes to show how badly is was needed