It was absolutely fine to choose the color you wanted in unrated games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lichess you cannot be serious, please bring this back for unrated games.
In tournaments in tennis you dont have this option, and you dont have it in tournaments at lichess.
But for training and challenge seeks?
And if you argue its an unfair advantage to let your opponent have white, dont play him.
And why is then the option "black" taken away, too? what is the rational here?
For tournaments, if you dont start a game, you lose rating points. In the open challenges, you dont lose rating points.
Also, there is Berserkermode in tournaments, handicapping the berserker player, and thus the rating of players mainly playing tournaments is different to the ratings in open challenges.
Nobody bothered, but the miniscule white/black advantage? But Berserker is ok? That is so hypocrite! C'mon!
Nobody asked for this change!
And there is a reason why chess.com has this option. The rationale at lichess is weak, and it annoys people. Who decided to grey out this option? And for casual, too? So narrow minded, really.
I'm honestly not sure if lichess is one of the most important chess institutions in the world, or a fun school project thibault runs from his parents' basement. I'm getting mixed signals all the time
and if it is too much effort to implement a toggle and 2 lines for an easy case question if the toggle is on or off, then who put in the effor to grey out the code for chosing black/white in the first place? These 2 lines are effort, too!
And that does not rectify the effort of thousands of players now to cumbersome manually do challenge invites. "you like to play rapid with white against me? 20 min game?" - I do not know if the player has time to play rapid, nor if the time controll is ok for him. Why not do an open challenge and wait until someone accepts? And lo' and behold! - we had exactly that!
Simplest and most effortless thing to do: delete the 2 lines that grey out the option of colors!
Honestly, I think the decision to grey out this option was done by one coder only, there was surely no discussion prior. The rectification comes afterwards, now that its implemented, some like it, most dont. But those who like it how it is now, they actually had not bothered previously, had not even come up with the idea to do such changes.
Hey, the new feature (removing to chose which side white/black) made me seek manually selected and invite other players.
Guess what? they accept, then they notice its rapid not bullet, dont want to play rapid (too long) and they resign an move 2 and I gain rating points!
You can not blame me for asking, they dont need to accept, and I can not predict if they dont like it and resign. But this happened.
This outweighs far the option of black/white (I still think this should not be removed, but whatever).
Others will find out about this behaviour, too! interesting side effect. Maybe that's why chess.com never abandoned the white/black option? I knew there is a rational behind it!
@bububulin said in #40:
> Come to think about it, I'm pretty sure the auto-matching process only started for whiteORblack type of games, so nobody was forcing anything.
> Nothing is solved, now you just force people to do things the way you like it.
Nope, you were automatched against fair players. But it's solved now :)
@Munich said in #46:
> Hey, the new feature (removing to chose which side white/black) made me seek manually selected and invite other players.
> Guess what? they accept, then they notice its rapid not bullet, dont want to play rapid (too long) and they resign an move 2 and I gain rating points!
> You can not blame me for asking, they dont need to accept, and I can not predict if they dont like it and resign. But this happened.
>
> This outweighs far the option of black/white (I still think this should not be removed, but whatever).
> Others will find out about this behaviour, too! interesting side effect. Maybe that's why chess.com never abandoned the white/black option? I knew there is a rational behind it!
Chess.com only allows it in casual games, not in rated games of course as that would be unfair to others.
And good! If people accept your games, it is perfectly fine to play them with custom rules. But now at least the playingfield is fair for all other players
I dont know, looks like invitations catch them more off guard, and then they resign. It's "fair", tell them this!
Previously, the challenge seek was clear. Players knew what they pick, but a challenge hand selected (invite) seems to camoflage what I seek. Not my fault they accept, but previously, all players who accepted my open challenge knew what the time controll is, and thus dont resign at move 3 (when they notice its a slower game).
This is a great update, good on Lichess for imposing this restriction!
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