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If Hans is cheating, then how is he doing it?

@Molurus said in #63:

Yeah, lying about what I or Carlsen has said: no problem. Everything is OK if you're on the right side of the argument, right?

I'm done with debating with people who take no shame in lying to make a point. Good luck with your witch hunt, I will have no part in it.

Bullies are actually cowards. They run away when people stand up to them.

@Molurus said in #63: > Yeah, lying about what I or Carlsen has said: no problem. Everything is OK if you're on the right side of the argument, right? > > I'm done with debating with people who take no shame in lying to make a point. Good luck with your witch hunt, I will have no part in it. Bullies are actually cowards. They run away when people stand up to them.

@Onyx_Chess Yeah, I get it. I did cheat. I fucked up, okay? And I'm ready to face the consequences. I have become a better person since then. But I don't see how this relates to Niemann. So this comment you have made, is not very relevant to my post. The point of the post is that people are throwing serious accusations around without evidence. They are also witch-hunting and trying to sabotage somebody's career just because he beat Magnus. That has nothing to do with whether I cheated or not. It's an entirely different Situation.

I sent you that dm because you were crying really hard that my post was up and also missing the point of it.

@Onyx_Chess Yeah, I get it. I did cheat. I fucked up, okay? And I'm ready to face the consequences. I have become a better person since then. But I don't see how this relates to Niemann. So this comment you have made, is not very relevant to my post. The point of the post is that people are throwing serious accusations around without evidence. They are also witch-hunting and trying to sabotage somebody's career just because he beat Magnus. That has nothing to do with whether I cheated or not. It's an entirely different Situation. I sent you that dm because you were crying really hard that my post was up and also missing the point of it.

@odoaker2015 said in #70:

@Molurus
show me where I lied!
Do you know those people who insult and then make excuses and leave when challenged on their accusations? Push around a teenager and when someone their size arrives, they run away like cowards? I wonder if we've had any of them on this thread?

@odoaker2015 said in #70: > @Molurus > show me where I lied! Do you know those people who insult and then make excuses and leave when challenged on their accusations? Push around a teenager and when someone their size arrives, they run away like cowards? I wonder if we've had any of them on this thread?

@ClayAndSilence said in #68:

The whole world knows what accusations are being made, implied and explicit.

If Carlsen had withdrawn before the tournament started, it wouldn't have been considered an accusation.
The fact that Carlsen withdrew at round 4 is inconsequential.

Between Round 1 and Round 4, Hans added 4 extra red flags for Magnus to deal with, and that was enough for Magnus to withdraw.

No accusations were necessary. No accusations were made.
You're finding accusations where none were made.

@odoaker2015 said in #66:

Do you know what a strawman is? Lol!

Yes I do!

When I was 4 years old, I actually noticed my mind lying to itself and began recognizing and inventing a list of logical fallacies in order to prevent against it.

You claiming that people are accusing Hans of cheating at Sinquefield, and then demanding evidence for the claim that people aren't making, qualifies.

https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/

@ClayAndSilence said in #68: > The whole world knows what accusations are being made, implied and explicit. If Carlsen had withdrawn before the tournament started, it wouldn't have been considered an accusation. The fact that Carlsen withdrew at round 4 is inconsequential. Between Round 1 and Round 4, Hans added 4 extra red flags for Magnus to deal with, and that was enough for Magnus to withdraw. No accusations were necessary. No accusations were made. You're finding accusations where none were made. @odoaker2015 said in #66: > Do you know what a strawman is? Lol! Yes I do! When I was 4 years old, I actually noticed my mind lying to itself and began recognizing and inventing a list of logical fallacies in order to prevent against it. You claiming that people are accusing Hans of cheating at Sinquefield, and then demanding evidence for the claim that people aren't making, qualifies. https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/

@Nomoreusernames said in #73:

Do you know those people who insult and then make excuses and leave when challenged on their accusations? Push around a teenager and when someone their size arrives, they run away like cowards? I wonder if we've had any of them on this thread?

This is a good question. I am asking too!

@Nomoreusernames said in #73: > Do you know those people who insult and then make excuses and leave when challenged on their accusations? Push around a teenager and when someone their size arrives, they run away like cowards? I wonder if we've had any of them on this thread? This is a good question. I am asking too!

@Onyx_Chess said in #74:

Yes I do!

I actually noticed my mind lying to itself and began recognizing and inventing a list of logical fallacies when I was 4 years old in order to prevent against it.

You claiming that people are accusing Hans of cheating at Sinquefield, and then demanding evidence for the claim that people aren't making, qualifies.

owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/

I didn't blame you. I explained that to you and I thought you understood. That's how you can fool yourself!

@Onyx_Chess said in #74: > Yes I do! > > I actually noticed my mind lying to itself and began recognizing and inventing a list of logical fallacies when I was 4 years old in order to prevent against it. > > You claiming that people are accusing Hans of cheating at Sinquefield, and then demanding evidence for the claim that people aren't making, qualifies. > > owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/ I didn't blame you. I explained that to you and I thought you understood. That's how you can fool yourself!

@Onyx_Chess also you can't "disqualify" me from talking in my own post, how entitled do u think u are lmao lmao lmao

@Onyx_Chess also you can't "disqualify" me from talking in my own post, how entitled do u think u are lmao lmao lmao

@Katzenschinken said in #53:

How could someone cheat if he wanted to?
That was in 2015. The miniaturization hasn't stopped since then.
But how do you get it past a RF scanner?

@Katzenschinken said in #53: > How could someone cheat if he wanted to? > That was in 2015. The miniaturization hasn't stopped since then. But how do you get it past a RF scanner?

@LillyStrikesBack said in #77:

@Onyx_Chess also you can't "disqualify" me from talking in my own post, how entitled do u think u are lmao lmao lmao

Cheaters, talking about what's best for the chess world, disqualify themselves from the conversation.

@LillyStrikesBack said in #77: > @Onyx_Chess also you can't "disqualify" me from talking in my own post, how entitled do u think u are lmao lmao lmao Cheaters, talking about what's best for the chess world, disqualify themselves from the conversation.

@Onyx_Chess said in #79:

Cheaters, talking about what's best for the chess world, are disqualified from the conversation.

You've never fucked up in your life? I'm not a cheater anymore. It's funny how u dig through my profile to try to uncover shit instead of talking about the matter at hand.

I would think that people who cry and mald because the man they are simping for loses, should also be disqualified from the conversation.

@Onyx_Chess said in #79: > Cheaters, talking about what's best for the chess world, are disqualified from the conversation. You've never fucked up in your life? I'm not a cheater anymore. It's funny how u dig through my profile to try to uncover shit instead of talking about the matter at hand. I would think that people who cry and mald because the man they are simping for loses, should also be disqualified from the conversation.

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