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How many cheaters OTB?

It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries.

It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries.

@Sarg0n said in #11:

It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries.

Thanks for your opinion :)

@Sarg0n said in #11: > It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries. Thanks for your opinion :)

@Cedur216 said in #5:

I already had way too many discussions with paranoid people recently.
I went to the Doctor and he said that I was paranoid He didn't actually say that but I knew what he was thinking.

@Cedur216 said in #5: > I already had way too many discussions with paranoid people recently. I went to the Doctor and he said that I was paranoid He didn't actually say that but I knew what he was thinking.

@KenulL_76 said in #14:

I went to the Doctor and he said that I was paranoid He didn't actually say that but I knew what he was thinking.
Wonder why he wouldn't just say that you're paranoid, do you think he's too worried about something to say it?

@KenulL_76 said in #14: > I went to the Doctor and he said that I was paranoid He didn't actually say that but I knew what he was thinking. Wonder why he wouldn't just say that you're paranoid, do you think he's too worried about something to say it?

I don't buy that it's that high.

Someone would have to be able to see the board...then they'd also have to be able to relay you information via some sort of earpiece...Unless you have some real delicate hardware such as a contact lens that is really a computer and also a tiny receiver in your ear canal...

I don't buy that it's that high. Someone would have to be able to see the board...then they'd also have to be able to relay you information via some sort of earpiece...Unless you have some real delicate hardware such as a contact lens that is really a computer and also a tiny receiver in your ear canal...

@Sarg0n said in #11:

It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries.

Serious question...wtf do people do about hydration and peeing?

Do they just not drink water? I mean as I understand it tournaments go on for hours. People are gonna have to pee at some point

@Sarg0n said in #11: > It's pretty difficult to cheat and therefore pretty rare. You are not allowed to take your mobile with you and it's very suspicious if you often leave for the boy's room. The quota is not 0 of course but close to it. No worries. Serious question...wtf do people do about hydration and peeing? Do they just not drink water? I mean as I understand it tournaments go on for hours. People are gonna have to pee at some point

@Adrenalectomy said in #17:

wtf do people do about hydration and peeing?

Just don't pee "often". Once per move is bad.

@Adrenalectomy said in #17: > wtf do people do about hydration and peeing? Just don't pee "often". Once per move is bad.

@Cedur216 said in #7:

Online skills are different than OTB skills, you can certainly tell the difference between having 3+ hours OTB and having 10 minutes or even less online. There are people with like 2000 FIDE who are great at speed, tactics, creativity but they're lacking deep opening theory, pattern recognition and high-level planmaking - the stuff that greatly matters OTB. Some even openly admit they're too lazy for that, so don't be surprised about their 2700 blitz rating.

I agree that the relative ratio of cheaters increases at high ratings for the simple reasons: A) less people overall, and B) more incentives to cheat. I know chesscom has banned a considerable amount of titled players (and Lichess surely did too, except not revealing the numbers), but even there we're talking about something way less than like 30%.

I disagree. What you said is true, there can be a difference between various time controls and I know very well what playing 90 mins is like (I play regularly 90 min tournaments), but I don't believe one who plays, let's say, 2600 FIDE strenght in Rapid isn't even 2200-2300 in Standard. There can't be so much difference in my opinion. I didn't make any research and I'm a modest player, but this is my opinion.

Instead I picked some random non titled top players in leaderboards and I noticed they have high bullet ratings as well, that decreases my suspects on them but I don't know, still getting those high ratings without being titled looks weird to me.

@Cedur216 said in #7: > Online skills are different than OTB skills, you can certainly tell the difference between having 3+ hours OTB and having 10 minutes or even less online. There are people with like 2000 FIDE who are great at speed, tactics, creativity but they're lacking deep opening theory, pattern recognition and high-level planmaking - the stuff that greatly matters OTB. Some even openly admit they're too lazy for that, so don't be surprised about their 2700 blitz rating. > > I agree that the relative ratio of cheaters increases at high ratings for the simple reasons: A) less people overall, and B) more incentives to cheat. I know chesscom has banned a considerable amount of titled players (and Lichess surely did too, except not revealing the numbers), but even there we're talking about something way less than like 30%. I disagree. What you said is true, there can be a difference between various time controls and I know very well what playing 90 mins is like (I play regularly 90 min tournaments), but I don't believe one who plays, let's say, 2600 FIDE strenght in Rapid isn't even 2200-2300 in Standard. There can't be so much difference in my opinion. I didn't make any research and I'm a modest player, but this is my opinion. Instead I picked some random non titled top players in leaderboards and I noticed they have high bullet ratings as well, that decreases my suspects on them but I don't know, still getting those high ratings without being titled looks weird to me.

Over the Board Chess and Cheating are nothing new, because its attractive.
A not so obvious way to go unfair at Club Matches is when a Rival Team knows the other Team has many New Players, and they try to substitute their Team Members with slightly higher Graded players ( a day or two before the Match), so they could potentially climb the League Rankings.
I'm not saying this is quite common, but it can happen.

Over the Board Chess and Cheating are nothing new, because its attractive. A not so obvious way to go unfair at Club Matches is when a Rival Team knows the other Team has many New Players, and they try to substitute their Team Members with slightly higher Graded players ( a day or two before the Match), so they could potentially climb the League Rankings. I'm not saying this is quite common, but it can happen.

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