Cheaters are not banned

Guys im new but i been ban 5cheaters

First i got nofication Somoene who you reportet get banned
Dan i look or they get banned but they not banned

But my friend say dan if three mans will ban him he will got banned
After somtime i back too searching and this is true so guys please if you want to ban first say this to your friends or just to somoenes

@possum_hollow said in #27:

Funny, everyone wants to belittle the chess knowledge of a 1200 rated player, talk about them making excuses for a loss, and so on. No one bothered to answer my question.

Your report was reviewed about two weeks ago, when you first reported the player. If no actions were notified to you it can be for two reasons:

1. Nothing note-worthy was found and report was dismissed;
2. Something suspicious was found but not enough to warrant direct action, hence pending deeper investigation.

Without going into details of your report, for obvious reasons, I will limit myself to say that the way you think accuracy % works is wrong or partially wrong and that it is not a trust worthy parameter to evaluate if someone is cheating.

I am part of the team of fair play moderators who train new moderators about cheating in general and Lichess counter measures. During my trainings I make sure that people understand that the accuracy % is useless and misleading in terms of cheat detection.

We have far better tools that either automatically detect cheating or that provide mods with extremely helpful data to judge if someone is cheating or not. Most of these tools are not accessible to the public. Some you can find on github and some not.

On a last note, reporting the same player over and over in a short timespan will not help your case, rather the contrary.

@nadjarostowa

While I am familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect, this Kruger-Donninger is a new one for me. Care to elaborate?

@Apogee2022 said in #31:

Guys im new but i been ban 5cheaters

First i got nofication Somoene who you reportet get banned
Dan i look or they get banned but they not banned

But my friend say dan if three mans will ban him he will got banned
After somtime i back too searching and this is true so guys please if you want to ban first say this to your friends or just to somoenes

This is also a false myth that needs debunking.

A couple of years ago there was a streamer who was playing chess on Lichess. They did not like how their opponent beat them so they decided to report them on stream.
They had hundreds of people watching. Most of these guys thought it would be a good idea to mass report the unfortunate opponent. They copy pasted in their own reports what the streamer wrote in the report and sent them, generating a huge report that contained the same sentence over and over and the single game.

We spent more time sanctioning the reporters for abuse of the report system than investigating the reported player.

My friend's account has suspended what can he do now..

@ShineOnMeCrazyD

I thought I posted this but it does not appear............

I want to thank you for the informed response from someone who is involved in the cheat detection process. While I disagree that accuracy% is useless, I have studied enough to know that it is a minor factor, particularly in sophisticated cheating.

That aside, would you not agree that a 1200 rated player suddenly running off 10-15 games in a row at >90% accuracy is statistically improbable? Or, when that same player responds to every move, regardless how difficult or easy, in 8-10 seconds is also anomalous?

i think it's human nature to be invested in the outcome of a report. I'm often curious in the outcome, but I'm never certain someone has cheated, so if someone doesn't get banned I assume I was wrong, or maybe there wasn't enough certainty. either way, I block so I'll never play them again. If they are cheating, it's not my problem.