Kramnik made a fool of himself quite enough with his multiple unsubstantiated accusations against respected chess players, but now a young man died and he won't stop. A line has been crossed in my opinion. He's not just making a fool of himself anymore, he's toxic and dangerous to the community.
FIDE should suspend him.
He should not receive any invitation to any tournament anymore.
Online chess platforms should close or at least restrict all of his accounts.
Medias should not give him the attention he so desperately craves for.
Not only suspend but even revoke all of his titles.
There is no 14th world champion, just like there is no winner of Tour de France 1999-2005.
Well, as far as I am aware, Kramnik did win his title fair and square, unlike Lance Armstrong. Revoking it should probably be a measure of last resort.
He also earned his GM fair and square. Yet he has proven absolutely unworthy. Revocation of GM title upon severe misconduct is explicitly possible, so why should WC be different?
At least AkaNemsko went so far to request this sort of measure, supported by Hikaru
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15223367/Chess-petition-BAN-Vladimir-Kramnik-Russian-Daniel-Naroditsky-death.html seems to indicate there's a petition to that effect with currently around 13k signatures.
Revoking title in case of Lance Armstrong was clear since he was doping but in the case of Kramnik unless he was doing something dodgy in toiletgate then he won his title fairly.
Whether it's appropriate in his case frankly I don't know as this kind of situation is without precedent. Previous cases of titles being stripped have pretty much always revolved around cheating. I guess it's a slippery slope since if you strip Kramnik's titles does that mean players who commit sexual and/or violent assaults at chess events would also get stripped of their titles where lines can get blurred in edge cases with accusations and limited proof.
Although there is added complication that people want justice yet as Kramnik is inactive as a player a ban from FIDE events doesn't really affect him at all so potentially a stronger measure is needed.
Well the official regulations are cryptic.
"Use of a FIDE title or rating to subvert the ethical principles of the title or rating system may subject a person to revocation of their title upon recommendation by the Qualification and Ethics Commissions and final action by FIDE Council."
I'd say the ethical principles of the title are more than clearly subversed, but what's with "use of the title"? Isn't that implied as well due to his "celebrity"?
Was there even one Kramnik fan, before this, and after?
@Cedur216 said in #6:
> Well the official regulations are cryptic.
Well I read same thing and have to admit I wasn't any clearer than you.
Sometimes rules can get read in crazy ways. For example Kramnik could argue he hasn't brought chess into disrepute and instead has brought himself into disrepute and depending on judge that can work.
Interestingly in Kramnik's Twitter/X profile it reads "Vladimir Kramnik (@ VBkramnik) - Posts - Vladimir Kramnik, Chess Grandmaster & World Champion ('00-'07). Advocate for fair play in chess." so he is using his title onTwitter/X where he makes his accusations.
Although I'm not an expert on FIDE rules, nor how it gets interpreted. To be perfectly honest I don't think anyone envisaged this kind of situation occurring when they were written.
Who is Kramnik?
From this thread I can tell that he is a GM that is the chess equivalent of Lance Armstrong.
Pop quiz: should GMs be allowed to used steroids to win at chess?
@Gleb_Momot said in #7:
> Was there even one Kramnik fan, before this, and after?
many Russians. I'm glad we don't see them here.
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