If Hans is cheating, then how is he doing it?

@Katzenschinken said in #107:

You are exactly the right person to discuss this with. Because guess who asked me if I could prove that this person didn't lie and who suggested that there might be some reason for him to lie.

If you think you don't want to discuss this any further, fine. Then don't suggest silly things like these.

No, I am not the right person, because I didn't claim that the person did not cheat. I said that I don't know that.

And answer the questions: #105

@odoaker2015 Yeah; unfortunately I'm not lying. I made a post on my Reddit account u/throwXawayXlifeX which had screenshotted proof of me being banned. Trust me I almost wish that I was telling lies. I'm zzory for all of the trouble I have caused this site.

But well, c'est la vie I guess.

@Katzenschinken

Again, what does the fact that the person cheated have anything to do with the post I responded to? Does that make the post less accurate?

@LillyStrikesBack said in #112:

@odoaker2015 Yeah; unfortunately I'm not lying. I made a post on my Reddit account u/throwXawayXlifeX which had screenshotted proof of me being banned. Trust me I almost wish that I was telling lies. I'm zzory for all of the trouble I have caused this site.

But well, c'est la vie I guess.

I don't judge anyone. Not like others who think they know everything and ridicule people who disagree. Either with ad hominem arguments and/or insults.

And the question of the thread is valid, no matter who made the thread. Anyone who thinks Niemann cheated otb should be able to explain how he did it. And that's especially true for people who even claim he cheated otb.

@odoaker2015 Finally someone who understands the point of my post! Thank you.

My pleasure! Und ich glaube, dass ich jetzt den ganzen Katzenschinken aufgegessen habe! Little play on words in German!

@Nomoreusernames said in #106:

The person in charge of fair play said that they use RF scanners, I didn't assume anything, so that is a false charge.

If you don't assume that scanners have been present at every tournament where Niemann played then how are you supposed to make your argument? You can't.

Not sure what you are saying here, but it does seem that you are trying to make the detection equipment seem lacking?

That Niemann played in a lot of tournaments where neither you nor I know if any detection equipment was present.

Do you think Niemann is in with the Chinese, or that the device is simple and commonly available and still evades state of the art detection?

You don't need to be in with the Chinese. All you need is a techie friend with an account at Alibaba and the stuff gets delivered right to your house. My brother-in-law is an electrical engineer and he regularly orders stuff there from which he makes his own house automation devices. Costs virtually nothing and is easy as f*ck if I believe his words.

As the person in charge of fair play said, they have a scanner which detects electronics also, so you are looking for a device which manages to get around RF scanners, metal detectors, electronics scanners.

If the device is switched off you can only detect it from the metal that is on the PCB and on the electronic parts. Have you ever seen a modern PCB, how small it is and how little metal it has on it?

If it's possible, then there must be a means right?

Did I dispute that?

@Nomoreusernames said in #110:

Back to the topic, you were saying "In fact the device used at the Sinquefield Cup looks like the LYUMO K-68 which can be bought for 50 bucks at Walmarts. Hardly professional equipment." Do you have any evidence for that, or is it meant to discredit St.Louis Chess Club?

Here is a company which sells security equipment:
https://www.brickhousesecurity.com/counter-surveillance/bug-detectors/
Even their cheap devices cost a couple hundred bucks. The expensive stuff costs several thousands. It would be incredibly naive to think that any security guy worth his salt would pay that money when the 50 bucks device from Walmart does just fine.

@odoaker2015 said in #111:

And answer the questions: #105

I gave an example in #95. And for you the same is valid as for Mr. @Nomoreusernames : You don't seem to have a single clue what is possible in terms of miniaturization.

@Katzenschinken said in #118:

If you don't assume that scanners have been present at every tournament where Niemann played then how are you supposed to make your argument? You can't.
No, it's not an assumption, there only has to be one instance of catching Niemann with any device, not 160.

That Niemann played in a lot of tournaments where neither you nor I know if any detection equipment was present.
And at least one where there was, in fact at the venue Magnus started the drama

You don't need to be in with the Chinese. All you need is a techie friend with an account at Alibaba and the stuff gets delivered right to your house. My brother-in-law is an electrical engineer and he regularly orders stuff there from which he makes his own house automation devices. Costs virtually nothing and is easy as f*ck if I believe his words.
Can you ask him about a device which will get around electronics detectors, RF scanners and metal detectors and communicate chess moves to someone undetected whilst they are on video?

If the device is switched off you can only detect it from the metal that is on the PCB and on the electronic parts. Have you ever seen a modern PCB, how small it is and how little metal it has on it?
Please recheck with your brother in law, I would be interested in his opinion about how they can do it.

Even their cheap devices cost a couple hundred bucks. The expensive stuff costs several thousands. It would be incredibly naive to think that any security guy worth his salt would pay that money when the 50 bucks device from Walmart does just fine.
If it does just fine, then there's no concern, right? If it doesn't do just fine, then the Sinquefield's have the means and wherewithal to get the one which is actually fine, if not state of the art.