Lichess, you are not banning cheaters by IP and email. You only ban them by nicknames which is very easy to change. Therefor they come and come and their numbers are increasing. It is only formal ban.
Very uneducated statements
You get one account per email. Also most users IP gets reassigned daily.
@beautiful_berries said in #3:
> You get one account per email. Also most users IP gets reassigned daily.
You can very easily create a new account on Gmail, delete Lichess cookies, and come back to create a new account. Many people do this, and many accounts have same names (People names in Gmail) . Sadly, this loophole is still not discovered by Lichess until now :(
@Alex-31 said in #1:
> Lichess, you are not banning cheaters by IP and email.
IP does very little nowadays in that regard, as getting a new IP is often trivial, and on the other hand some IP addresses serve multiple users.
Also, I don't understand what you mean with email in that regard, as you can only register one account per email address.
> You only ban them by nicknames which is very easy to change.
In fact, changing the nickname is impossible.
> Therefor they come and come and their numbers are increasing.
Maybe the number is increasing. But often people consider others as cheaters when they lose, and there is no real justification. So the problem is perceived several times worse than it actually is. In some cases, people report 80% of their losses as cheats, when in reality it's maybe 2-5 % or so. Which would still be plenty, but wouldn't warrant the paranoia that is currently going on, well-fuelled by social media.
> It is only formal ban.
If you think you have better ways, I am sure the anti-cheating team is happy to hear it. But also keep in mind that this is no new topic, and any quick idea that you think of has probably been discussed and/or tried in the past. A lot of experience and development has gone into this basically since online games have started decades ago.
I understand that cheating is a difficult challenge for any chess site. And, I really don't mind if someone has defeated me by cheating that is difficult to detect. But this site does not ban very obvious, easily detected cheaters. Because of this, I am no longer a patron of Lichess, nor do I play on this site anymore.
@possum_hollow serval of the worlds best players have accused x of cheating and got it wrong what makes you think you are an expect or i can. Also please show your relevant experience with cheating or qualification. I have none and therefore have no weight in saying who is a cheater and not what about you?
Cheaters shant be given new accounts, nor be able t' close or scuttle thar accounts. Hornswagglin' be an offence big enough t' where thar shant be second chances. N' if cheaters' got permanent marks, it'll scare some from hornswagglin'.
(#9: One: It isn't Shakespeare; it's pirate.
Two: Translation: I think cheaters shouldn't be able to hide their mark by closing/deleting their accounts—as that would discourage some from cheating—or be given second chances, as cheating is a more impactful offfence.)
@Shadow1414 said in #8:
> Cheaters shant be given new accounts, nor be able t' close or scuttle thar accounts. Hornswagglin' be an offence big enough t' where thar shant be second chances. N' if cheaters' got permanent marks, it'll scare some from hornswagglin'.
english translation please? "Shakespeare" is not eligible in google translate
@for_cryingout_loud I don't think you read my message. I never said I was an expert, far from it. Nor do I care to be. However, some cheaters are so very obvious that even I can determine they are cheating. Your comparison of the world's best players is not relevant. They are in a world of very sophisticated cheating, and extraordinarily difficult to prove.
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