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Invisible Pieces: Women in Chess

I directly encouraged my girlfriend to play chess, explained it to her in detail, tried it several times. Tried to show her how much fun it is. (All while I did like 70% of the housework when living together for years btw). Same with three other girls. None of my female friends/family liked it, like 10 women I tried to play it with. They just can't get into it. ALL of my male friends liked it, some from the start, and every single one I brought to play it.

Men generally like to overcome resistances and to think strategically, women generally don't, that's it...

I want to add: Women in chess, that love chess, that face harassment, or stalking, is a huge problem of course. Its unacceptable, sexist. But that there are not a lot of women in chess? Thats NOT a problem, its just how it is, why the f* would that be a problem? Why would there need to be more women into chess? Thats like saying we should directly encourage women to work on oil platforms, to work as a loader for UPS and thats its unacceptable that its 100% men working those jobs? Come on

I directly encouraged my girlfriend to play chess, explained it to her in detail, tried it several times. Tried to show her how much fun it is. (All while I did like 70% of the housework when living together for years btw). Same with three other girls. None of my female friends/family liked it, like 10 women I tried to play it with. They just can't get into it. ALL of my male friends liked it, some from the start, and every single one I brought to play it. Men generally like to overcome resistances and to think strategically, women generally don't, that's it... I want to add: Women in chess, that love chess, that face harassment, or stalking, is a huge problem of course. Its unacceptable, sexist. But that there are not a lot of women in chess? Thats NOT a problem, its just how it is, why the f* would that be a problem? Why would there need to be more women into chess? Thats like saying we should directly encourage women to work on oil platforms, to work as a loader for UPS and thats its unacceptable that its 100% men working those jobs? Come on

@AntiRustWD64
What even is that video you sent?
Just within the first 2 minutes the guy is making claims like "There is a vocal minority of people who are sexist, racist, don't allow black, brown people into the chess community"
Where is this community?
As a brown guy, I've never been approached by such a group, hell 99.99999% of the chess community is extremely nice, well spoken, logical. The minority of people who are mean aren't even racists lol (Ive yet to meet one)
The video just seems to blow the people in this comment section's ideology out of proportion.
Also, I suggest whoever made the video to stop saying stuff like "pissy pants men" or other offensive B.S if they really want to be taken seriously and heard out with a clear mind.

EDIT: Also why would you not engage in discussion with this group? Resolution is better.

@AntiRustWD64 What even is that video you sent? Just within the first 2 minutes the guy is making claims like "There is a vocal minority of people who are sexist, racist, don't allow black, brown people into the chess community" Where is this community? As a brown guy, I've never been approached by such a group, hell 99.99999% of the chess community is extremely nice, well spoken, logical. The minority of people who are mean aren't even racists lol (Ive yet to meet one) The video just seems to blow the people in this comment section's ideology out of proportion. Also, I suggest whoever made the video to stop saying stuff like "pissy pants men" or other offensive B.S if they really want to be taken seriously and heard out with a clear mind. EDIT: Also why would you not engage in discussion with this group? Resolution is better.

#285 Good to know that you've actively taught the game to many.
I can safely say from the Indian perspective that starting early is important for chess players both in quick assimilation and consistency in interest over a period of time.

Considering the case of kids, boys who show a small interest in chess are far more likely to be taken seriously than girls because of various reasons and the issue starts from that age.

Most parents nip the bud almost immediately when a girl expresses interest in chess and since playing chess involves risky travel, costs significant money and women players were greeted to deplorable playing conditions in the tournament(things are better now), hostile clubs most of these factors contribute to parents just neglecting this early on.

But, these factors are never considered as risky endeavors for boys because parents know that a world exists where men are the dominant force and are also doing nothing to make conditions humane for the other gender. Before 2013-14, there have been ample cases of outright, disgraceful playing conditions and hygienic concerns by women players were rarely addressed. Now, they are better addressed for sure.

Religious indoctrination has always been the easiest deterrent to subdue any aspirational person, and it works on children because it is easy to scare them! So, chess which requires early age encouragement, although not necessarily, is considered a time-pass activity and more so for aspiring girls who dare to dream. And this isn't restricted to just chess.

The problem I see here is lesser representation of women in policy making who are countering laws propounded by the male-dominated world, and that is helping the world to be a better place, at least here in India.

Because, I can see that many here are also against women coming into politics and decision making by again playing the intelligence card, so it is only understandable that the majority in a chauvinistic society will do anything to keep their horses running and not see the need for improvements at grassroot levels.

The matter of concern here is to recognize that nobody needs constant ridicule and hostility towards them in playing conditions, sponsor support, when starting the game or just about any aspect of the game, and all this just for being from another gender, and just to play chess.

#285 Good to know that you've actively taught the game to many. I can safely say from the Indian perspective that starting early is important for chess players both in quick assimilation and consistency in interest over a period of time. Considering the case of kids, boys who show a small interest in chess are far more likely to be taken seriously than girls because of various reasons and the issue starts from that age. Most parents nip the bud almost immediately when a girl expresses interest in chess and since playing chess involves risky travel, costs significant money and women players were greeted to deplorable playing conditions in the tournament(things are better now), hostile clubs most of these factors contribute to parents just neglecting this early on. But, these factors are never considered as risky endeavors for boys because parents know that a world exists where men are the dominant force and are also doing nothing to make conditions humane for the other gender. Before 2013-14, there have been ample cases of outright, disgraceful playing conditions and hygienic concerns by women players were rarely addressed. Now, they are better addressed for sure. Religious indoctrination has always been the easiest deterrent to subdue any aspirational person, and it works on children because it is easy to scare them! So, chess which requires early age encouragement, although not necessarily, is considered a time-pass activity and more so for aspiring girls who dare to dream. And this isn't restricted to just chess. The problem I see here is lesser representation of women in policy making who are countering laws propounded by the male-dominated world, and that is helping the world to be a better place, at least here in India. Because, I can see that many here are also against women coming into politics and decision making by again playing the intelligence card, so it is only understandable that the majority in a chauvinistic society will do anything to keep their horses running and not see the need for improvements at grassroot levels. The matter of concern here is to recognize that nobody needs constant ridicule and hostility towards them in playing conditions, sponsor support, when starting the game or just about any aspect of the game, and all this just for being from another gender, and just to play chess.

I hope that Lichess bans you from using the Lichess flag.

You should not have that next to your name.

You shouldn't even be here at all.

You are bad for the chess world and you are terrible for this site.

Everyone knows it.

You're a naked little emperor with a big mouth and a gun. Nothing more.

I hope that Lichess bans you from using the Lichess flag. You should not have that next to your name. You shouldn't even be here at all. You are bad for the chess world and you are terrible for this site. Everyone knows it. You're a naked little emperor with a big mouth and a gun. Nothing more.

@AntiRustWD64
I dont know if you are trolling or not at this point.
I sincerely hope you are though

@AntiRustWD64 I dont know if you are trolling or not at this point. I sincerely hope you are though

@Menkhenamen

"Either you can show me how what you're saying is good for the chess world, or you can shut your mouth and not speak again."

@Menkhenamen "Either you can show me how what you're saying is good for the chess world, or you can shut your mouth and not speak again."

@AntiRustWD64
Why would you simply try to shut someone up, rather than engage in debate and come to a resolution?
Also, can you show me the hardcore-racist-sexist community of white guys you talk so spitefully of? Or are they imaginary?

@AntiRustWD64 Why would you simply try to shut someone up, rather than engage in debate and come to a resolution? Also, can you show me the hardcore-racist-sexist community of white guys you talk so spitefully of? Or are they imaginary?

@Menkhenamen

You're that kid that needs 7 minutes to figure out that your position is checkmated.

"Shhh! Hold on! I'm thinking!" you say.

We roll our eyes and wait impatiently.

@Menkhenamen You're that kid that needs 7 minutes to figure out that your position is checkmated. "Shhh! Hold on! I'm thinking!" you say. We roll our eyes and wait impatiently.

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