@pkill said in #20:
> whatever you say..
It is what I say.
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@pkill said in #22:
that's your opinion, and so the cycle continues...
There is no cycle. You are wrong dredging up history to inform your worldview, in this context. Let me ask you a question:
Is Germany a Nazi State?
@pkill said in #22:
> that's your opinion, and so the cycle continues...
There is no cycle. You are wrong dredging up history to inform your worldview, in this context. Let me ask you a question:
Is Germany a Nazi State?
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@pkill said in #24:
you are under the impression that i am dredging up history in an excuse to support a russian invasion. this is not the case. i'm was only adding the history for the sake of completeness to a previous post.
you are asking the wrong question as well as claiming facts that have not yet been determined.
What facts?
Oh, and is Germany a Nazi State?
@pkill said in #24:
> you are under the impression that i am dredging up history in an excuse to support a russian invasion. this is not the case. i'm was only adding the history for the sake of completeness to a previous post.
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> you are asking the wrong question as well as claiming facts that have not yet been determined.
What facts?
Oh, and is Germany a Nazi State?
So, Ukraine remains evil for the crimes committed, under Russian rule, during WW2, but not Germany. Sounds logical, doesn't it?
And Russia, who along with Germany, destroyed Poland, are absolved because ....... reasons.
So, Ukraine remains evil for the crimes committed, under Russian rule, during WW2, but not Germany. Sounds logical, doesn't it?
And Russia, who along with Germany, destroyed Poland, are absolved because ....... reasons.
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@pkill said in #27:
exactly.. what facts?
lol what are you trying to deflect?
no, if i had to guess germany is not a nazi state. not that i'm up to speed about politics in germany anyway. this has nothing to do with anything.
forget it.. you are not reading. i never said ukraine was evil. lol
It has everything to do with your bold statement of "Ukrainians teaming up Nazi's", during WW2. Do you hold Germany still at fault, the way you do Ukraine? You now admit you don't hold Germany to the sins of their past, so will you retract your comment about Ukraine?
With regard to the facts: You made the claim of "facts yet to be determined". What facts have yet to be determined?
You didn't say Ukraine was evil, but you implied it when commenting about their actions in Poland. Forgetting that Russia were in league with Germany at the time, with the aim of dividing Poland between themselves.
Russia was just as guilty as Germany at the start of the war. The only thing that changed the course of history at the time was Germany attacking Russia - Operation Barbarossa.
@pkill said in #27:
> exactly.. what facts?
>
> lol what are you trying to deflect?
>
> no, if i had to guess germany is not a nazi state. not that i'm up to speed about politics in germany anyway. this has nothing to do with anything.
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> forget it.. you are not reading. i never said ukraine was evil. lol
It has everything to do with your bold statement of "Ukrainians teaming up Nazi's", during WW2. Do you hold Germany still at fault, the way you do Ukraine? You now admit you don't hold Germany to the sins of their past, so will you retract your comment about Ukraine?
With regard to the facts: You made the claim of "facts yet to be determined". What facts have yet to be determined?
You didn't say Ukraine was evil, but you implied it when commenting about their actions in Poland. Forgetting that Russia were in league with Germany at the time, with the aim of dividing Poland between themselves.
Russia was just as guilty as Germany at the start of the war. The only thing that changed the course of history at the time was Germany attacking Russia - Operation Barbarossa.
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@pkill said in #29:
do you know why i said that? or are you just taking things out of context. there is nothing for me to retract because it's a fact and it actually happend.
the facts about this war are to be determined obviously..
I know why you said it. You said it to cast present day Ukraine as the Ukraine of WW2, but now you can't when presented with my example of Germany. In effect, you painted yourself into a corner. Just as Putin has, but on an entirely different level
Please elaborate on the facts that have yet to be determined? I'm really interested. Which facts, exactly?
@pkill said in #29:
> do you know why i said that? or are you just taking things out of context. there is nothing for me to retract because it's a fact and it actually happend.
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> the facts about this war are to be determined obviously..
I know why you said it. You said it to cast present day Ukraine as the Ukraine of WW2, but now you can't when presented with my example of Germany. In effect, you painted yourself into a corner. Just as Putin has, but on an entirely different level
Please elaborate on the facts that have yet to be determined? I'm really interested. Which facts, exactly?
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