Christianity

@Cassiodorus1 said in #19:
> There is no God but the Flying Spaghetti Monster! May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage!

Thank you, I was touched by his noodly appendage today it was quite nice

@DuMussDieUhrDruecken said in #20:

> @Cassiodorus1 - go. a. way.

You have no proprietary rights over this space.

who said i did.

leave!

@DuMussDieUhrDruecken said in #23:

> leave!

No.

@FridaGarciaKMS - forgot your thread?

@kyanite111 said in #7:
> The question you should be asking is why do you believe, and is it appropriate to try to force those beliefs onto others unless you are absolutely sure what you believe is true? I am sure you would not be too happy if someone tried to push you to believe in something you didn't believe in.

Youve inserted evangelism into a discussion about something else in order to press your belief that a person should keep his beliefs to himself. If your so sure no one is happy to have someones belief pressed on them why are you doin it? Lol. Turns out your perfectly wrong. Most christians have no problem engaging with the beliefs of Others. Thank you for your thoughts

Apart from personal divine revelation thats difficult to accomplish. Personal revelation is not out of the question, but it isnt a given either. Why without a bible? If you have access to the scriptures and the reasons why they are considered inspired why wouldnt you avail yourself of them?

The andbible app can be disguised as a calculator if that helps.

The word Christainity seems to have the root word as Christ, so unfortunately you need to follow Jesus' teaching through the new testament.

If you don't want to follow Bible atleast follow the golden rule,
Treat others (including animals) as you want yourself to be treated. Try to reduce hurt and suffering in the world. Help others. Do not eat animals. Do not promote things that promote animal cruelty like dairy and meat industry.

@NaturalBornTraveller said in #10:
> If you need a book or something else to embrace your belief, then I would hardly call you religious.
>
> Don't confuse your belief by adding religious doctrines.

Youre describing new age religion. "Belief" as some ephemeral thing inside of yourself with intrinsic virtue.
"It's not what you believe but how hard you believe it."
Its a particular worldview entirely antithetical to christian theology.

You **are** preaching a doctrine particular to your own worldview. If you have Ideas about the way things are and you share them. Thats a doctrine. All religions have doctrines.
all schools of thought rational or otherwise are comprised of doctrine. To avoid dooctrine is to run from rationality and run into bad doctrine.

Christian theology comes from the testaments of those who claim to have had first hand experience with the divine. A christian has to weigh the evidence and decide to accept or reject it.

Proof? This is an equivocation. We arent doing math. We are looking for the inference to the best explanation. Proof in this context is an entirely subjective interpretation of the evidence.

@Strange-Nickel said in #29:
> Youre describing new age religion.
Am I? Or am I describing all sorts of organised religion?
I suppose you can interprete my post both ways, depending on your view point.
Just look at the various of different branches of Christianity. Protestant, baptist, catholic, Mormon etcetera.

How many of them actually follows their religious scriptures to the letter?
And how much in those religious scriptures is actually necessary to read before being a Christian?

> all schools of thought rational or otherwise are comprised of doctrine. To avoid dooctrine is to run from rationality and run into bad doctrine.
I agree on the first part, the latter part I am a little confused as to what you mean.
My #10 is to be read as a sceptical point of view, meaning question everything, and then draw your own conclusions.
Which goes against what people can read in a Bible.
Since it doesn't ask people to be sceptical.
So when you say I am "preaching", I strongly disagree.
Advocating scepticism isn't preaching.

> Christian theology comes from the testaments of those who claim to have had first hand experience with the divine. A christian has to weigh the evidence and decide to accept or reject it.
This was my point in the latter half of my #10.
When people start to follow testimonial accounts of the people, who came before, then they ain't only believing in the scriptures, but also in the people who wrote them.
A different type of belief, I am aware, but a belief none the less, and one that deserves to be questioned and not to be followed blindly.

> Proof in this context is an entirely subjective interpretation of the evidence.
I personally disagree that the Bible contains evidence in any way. My reasonings is that the Bible is based on hearsay. So if people believe in hearsay, they are putting too much faith in human credibility to be factual, in not only their reportings, but also in their memory capacity and their capability to understand what they see.
Proof is never subjective.
So if people need proof to believe, then they are not a believer.