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The annual arenas are held twice a year, but not all...

@Italiya said in #170:

What kind of general non-compliance is there to fall under the definition of inductance? This is just a clickbait title.
You’re conflating “inductive” with “inductance” — they are unrelated concepts.
In logic, “inductive” refers to reasoning based on general patterns and observations, not to electrical phenomena. As I said please don’t use terminology if you haven’t fully understood it.
An inductive falsehood is simply a statement that fails under general observation (e.g., “Yearly Arena” when held twice a year).
Labeling it “clickbait” adds an assumption of intent, which is exactly the point I’ve been explaining is not implied here.

@Italiya said in #170: > What kind of general non-compliance is there to fall under the definition of inductance? This is just a clickbait title. You’re conflating “inductive” with “inductance” — they are unrelated concepts. In logic, “inductive” refers to reasoning based on general patterns and observations, not to electrical phenomena. As I said please don’t use terminology if you haven’t fully understood it. An inductive falsehood is simply a statement that fails under general observation (e.g., “Yearly Arena” when held twice a year). Labeling it “clickbait” adds an assumption of intent, which is exactly the point I’ve been explaining is not implied here.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #171:

You’re conflating “inductive” with “inductance” — they are unrelated concepts.
In logic, “inductive” refers to reasoning based on general patterns and observations, not to electrical phenomena. As I said please don’t use terminology if you haven’t fully understood it.
An inductive falsehood is simply a statement that fails under general observation (e.g., “Yearly Arena” when held twice a year).
Labeling it “clickbait” adds an assumption of intent, which is exactly the point I’ve been explaining is not implied here.

How does a false title of a YouTube video differ from a false title of a tournament?

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #171: > You’re conflating “inductive” with “inductance” — they are unrelated concepts. > In logic, “inductive” refers to reasoning based on general patterns and observations, not to electrical phenomena. As I said please don’t use terminology if you haven’t fully understood it. > An inductive falsehood is simply a statement that fails under general observation (e.g., “Yearly Arena” when held twice a year). > Labeling it “clickbait” adds an assumption of intent, which is exactly the point I’ve been explaining is not implied here. How does a false title of a YouTube video differ from a false title of a tournament?

@Italiya said in #172:

How does a false title of a YouTube video differ from a false title of a tournament?
Different intentions. YouTube titles are often crafted to deliberately attract clicks (clickbait), implying manipulative intent which can be proved by repeated pattern in other titles on the same channel. For «Annual Arena», you’ve provided no evidence of such intent.
(M∧C) => D

@Italiya said in #172: > How does a false title of a YouTube video differ from a false title of a tournament? Different intentions. YouTube titles are often crafted to deliberately attract clicks (clickbait), implying manipulative intent which can be proved by repeated pattern in other titles on the same channel. For «Annual Arena», you’ve provided no evidence of such intent. (M∧C) => D

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #173:

Different intentions. YouTube titles are often crafted to deliberately attract clicks (clickbait), implying manipulative intent which can be proved by repeated pattern in other titles on the same channel. For «Annual Arena», you’ve provided no evidence of such intent.
(M∧C) => D

So according to your beliefs - it is for the beauty of sound. And the arenas with a false name are also repeated.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #173: > Different intentions. YouTube titles are often crafted to deliberately attract clicks (clickbait), implying manipulative intent which can be proved by repeated pattern in other titles on the same channel. For «Annual Arena», you’ve provided no evidence of such intent. > (M∧C) => D So according to your beliefs - it is for the beauty of sound. And the arenas with a false name are also repeated.

@Italiya said in #174:

So according to your beliefs - it is for the beauty of sound. And the arenas with a false name are also repeated.
Yes, branding is one possible reason.
To establish a pattern, it is necessary to prove that there are other tournaments with different misleading names that are repeated systematically. Otherwise, it is not a pattern of different names, but consistent use of the brand. Name repetition is not equivalent to repeated clickbait titles, as there is no variety in the names that indicates manipulative intent.

@Italiya said in #174: > So according to your beliefs - it is for the beauty of sound. And the arenas with a false name are also repeated. Yes, branding is one possible reason. To establish a pattern, it is necessary to prove that there are other tournaments with different misleading names that are repeated systematically. Otherwise, it is not a pattern of different names, but consistent use of the brand. Name repetition is not equivalent to repeated clickbait titles, as there is no variety in the names that indicates manipulative intent.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #175:

Yes, branding is one possible reason.
To establish a pattern, it is necessary to prove that there are other tournaments with different misleading names that are repeated systematically. Otherwise, it is not a pattern of different names, but consistent use of the brand. Name repetition is not equivalent to repeated clickbait titles, as there is no variety in the names that indicates manipulative intent.

So a false name is only possible with variety? If you repeat the same lie, does it become the truth? Given that the essence does not change. So there are other tournaments: bullet, blitz, rapid, classic. Now if they were called five-year or three-year each time, then it would be variety, and therefore deception, right?

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #175: > Yes, branding is one possible reason. > To establish a pattern, it is necessary to prove that there are other tournaments with different misleading names that are repeated systematically. Otherwise, it is not a pattern of different names, but consistent use of the brand. Name repetition is not equivalent to repeated clickbait titles, as there is no variety in the names that indicates manipulative intent. So a false name is only possible with variety? If you repeat the same lie, does it become the truth? Given that the essence does not change. So there are other tournaments: bullet, blitz, rapid, classic. Now if they were called five-year or three-year each time, then it would be variety, and therefore deception, right?

@Italiya said in #176:

So a false name is only possible with variety?
An inductively false name is possible without proof of repetition, but this does not prove the intent to deceive.
To prove intent, you need to provide evidence. Proof through pattern is one of the possible proofs that does not require correspondence or other similar data.

What does turning a lie into truth by repetition have to do with it, if that is not what we are talking about? If an inductively false name is repeated many times, it will not become inductively true. But it will not prove the pattern either.
You are constantly mixing people with horses.

@Italiya said in #176:

Now if they were called five-year or three-year each time, then it would be variety, and therefore deception, right?
If there were many different tournaments with different names that were inductively false and the pattern rules out other causes than deliberate misleading then a pattern could be inferred that would indicate a deliberate desire to mislead.
But this is already a discussion of hypothetical scenarios that are not relevant to the matter.

@Italiya said in #176: > So a false name is only possible with variety? An inductively false name is possible without proof of repetition, but this does not prove the intent to deceive. To prove intent, you need to provide evidence. Proof through pattern is one of the possible proofs that does not require correspondence or other similar data. What does turning a lie into truth by repetition have to do with it, if that is not what we are talking about? If an inductively false name is repeated many times, it will not become inductively true. But it will not prove the pattern either. You are constantly mixing people with horses. @Italiya said in #176: > Now if they were called five-year or three-year each time, then it would be variety, and therefore deception, right? If there were many different tournaments with different names that were inductively false and the pattern rules out other causes than deliberate misleading then a pattern could be inferred that would indicate a deliberate desire to mislead. But this is already a discussion of hypothetical scenarios that are not relevant to the matter.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #177:

An inductively false name is possible without proof of repetition, but this does not prove the intent to deceive.
To prove intent, you need to provide evidence. Proof through pattern is one of the possible proofs that does not require correspondence or other similar data.

What does turning a lie into truth by repetition have to do with it, if that is not what we are talking about? If an inductively false name is repeated many times, it will not become inductively true. But it will not prove the pattern either.
You are constantly mixing people with horses.

If there were many different tournaments with different names that were inductively false and the pattern rules out other causes than deliberate misleading then a pattern could be inferred that would indicate a deliberate desire to mislead.
But this is already a discussion of hypothetical scenarios that are not relevant to the matter.

There are as many as five tournaments with false names on a regular basis: bullet, blitz, super blitz, rapid and classic. Not enough? For some reason, in the case of video titles, you immediately identify clickbait, but here something doesn't work. Despite the fact that the situation is the same.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #177: > An inductively false name is possible without proof of repetition, but this does not prove the intent to deceive. > To prove intent, you need to provide evidence. Proof through pattern is one of the possible proofs that does not require correspondence or other similar data. > > What does turning a lie into truth by repetition have to do with it, if that is not what we are talking about? If an inductively false name is repeated many times, it will not become inductively true. But it will not prove the pattern either. > You are constantly mixing people with horses. > > > If there were many different tournaments with different names that were inductively false and the pattern rules out other causes than deliberate misleading then a pattern could be inferred that would indicate a deliberate desire to mislead. > But this is already a discussion of hypothetical scenarios that are not relevant to the matter. There are as many as five tournaments with false names on a regular basis: bullet, blitz, super blitz, rapid and classic. Not enough? For some reason, in the case of video titles, you immediately identify clickbait, but here something doesn't work. Despite the fact that the situation is the same.

@Italiya said in #178:

There are as many as five tournaments with false names on a regular basis: bullet, blitz, super blitz, rapid and classic. Not enough?
No, it’s not enough. These tournaments use «Yearly» (e.g., «Yearly Bullet Arena»), which shows branding, not intent to mislead. An intentional misleading pattern requires different misleading names with varied errors, like YouTube clickbait names. If YouTube videos all had the same error on the same channel, like «PIGEON ATE A BURGER», «PIGEON ATE A MELON», «PIGEON ATE A CYCLIST», it would suggest a style, not clickbait.

@Italiya said in #178:

For some reason, in the case of video titles, you immediately identify clickbait, but here something doesn't work. Despite the fact that the situation is the same.
Because the situations are completely different, not only in terms of context but also in terms of content.
You're trying to grab any clues again to prove that Lichess is intentionally mislead players, but they simply don't work because you're comparing warm with soft.

In the case of clickbait videos, we have different titles with different inductive fallacies that allow us to identify a common pattern, and there are additional factors that indicate that this pattern has no other explanation than intentional misleading.
There is no such pattern here on Lichess.

Show tournaments with other misleading names, not tied to «Annual», or prove Lichess’s intent to mislead with official statements or other data.

@Italiya said in #178: > There are as many as five tournaments with false names on a regular basis: bullet, blitz, super blitz, rapid and classic. Not enough? No, it’s not enough. These tournaments use «Yearly» (e.g., «Yearly Bullet Arena»), which shows branding, not intent to mislead. An intentional misleading pattern requires different misleading names with varied errors, like YouTube clickbait names. If YouTube videos all had the same error on the same channel, like «PIGEON ATE A BURGER», «PIGEON ATE A MELON», «PIGEON ATE A CYCLIST», it would suggest a style, not clickbait. @Italiya said in #178: > For some reason, in the case of video titles, you immediately identify clickbait, but here something doesn't work. Despite the fact that the situation is the same. Because the situations are completely different, not only in terms of context but also in terms of content. You're trying to grab any clues again to prove that Lichess is intentionally mislead players, but they simply don't work because you're comparing warm with soft. In the case of clickbait videos, we have different titles with different inductive fallacies that allow us to identify a common pattern, and there are additional factors that indicate that this pattern has no other explanation than intentional misleading. There is no such pattern here on Lichess. Show tournaments with other misleading names, not tied to «Annual», or prove Lichess’s intent to mislead with official statements or other data.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #179:

No, it’s not enough. These tournaments use «Yearly» (e.g., «Yearly Bullet Arena»), which shows branding, not intent to mislead. An intentional misleading pattern requires different misleading names with varied errors, like YouTube clickbait names. If YouTube videos all had the same error on the same channel, like «PIGEON ATE A BURGER», «PIGEON ATE A MELON», «PIGEON ATE A CYCLIST», it would suggest a style, not clickbait.

Because the situations are completely different, not only in terms of context but also in terms of content.
You're trying to grab any clues again to prove that Lichess is intentionally mislead players, but they simply don't work because you're comparing warm with soft.

In the case of clickbait videos, we have different titles with different inductive fallacies that allow us to identify a common pattern, and there are additional factors that indicate that this pattern has no other explanation than intentional misleading.
There is no such pattern here on Lichess.

Show tournaments with other misleading names, not tied to «Annual», or prove Lichess’s intent to mislead with official statements or other data.

Hourly Bullet Arena

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #179: > No, it’s not enough. These tournaments use «Yearly» (e.g., «Yearly Bullet Arena»), which shows branding, not intent to mislead. An intentional misleading pattern requires different misleading names with varied errors, like YouTube clickbait names. If YouTube videos all had the same error on the same channel, like «PIGEON ATE A BURGER», «PIGEON ATE A MELON», «PIGEON ATE A CYCLIST», it would suggest a style, not clickbait. > > > Because the situations are completely different, not only in terms of context but also in terms of content. > You're trying to grab any clues again to prove that Lichess is intentionally mislead players, but they simply don't work because you're comparing warm with soft. > > In the case of clickbait videos, we have different titles with different inductive fallacies that allow us to identify a common pattern, and there are additional factors that indicate that this pattern has no other explanation than intentional misleading. > There is no such pattern here on Lichess. > > Show tournaments with other misleading names, not tied to «Annual», or prove Lichess’s intent to mislead with official statements or other data. Hourly Bullet Arena

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