Can't create game with specific side any more

@Sofia-Mary said in #730:

The numbers about the "abusing" white players did not reach me.
Whats about it? Why didnt you send?

Working on them! I will also post them here and tag you

my point is that if you preach water, but secretly drink wine, you might question his intentions?

Its a lot to read, but if you read through his messages, beDecent gave indeed the impression he knows lichess for many years now. His account looks like that?

The white/black feature is missed, and there are solutions, and likely solutions I did not think off. The current solution was the simplest, but not necessarily the best: disabling the white/black option for casual AND ranked.
And it has nothing to do with playing 100% with white only gives improves your rating by about 22 rating points on the long run, because you can clearly see, it has been disabled for Casual, too. So the ranking wasnt the issue for disabling it.

Rather, it was the lack of consent when the automatching paired quickpairing players white-seekers.
The solution would be to not automatch white-seekers with players who went of the quickpairing page. Such white seekers appear in the lobby only.
Furthermore, if the number of games would swamp the lobby, then you could disable white/black for bullet time controls and blitz 3+0, as these time controls are by far the most played chosen time controls.

Anyway, better solutions exist, but I dont think beDecent lets it happen to seriously discuss them, but instead spams this thread, repeatedly referring to players (who have used the feature white/black) as "abusers". He does that on purpose, his way of trolling fun, isnt it?

@BeDecentForAChange said in #731:

Working on them! I will also post them here and tag you

So, you already started to calculate them. What do you think, how long do you need? I can not wait for so long, because I am so, so, so impatient and curious about the "abuser" numbers.

@Munich said in #732:

my point is that if you preach water, but secretly drink wine, you might question his intentions?

Great line, doesn't mean anything

Its a lot to read, but if you read through his messages, beDecent gave indeed the impression he knows lichess for many years now. His account looks like that?

Please cite my message where I say I have known Lichess for many years. I'm going to count the amount of unfounded claims you have made.

The white/black feature is missed, and there are solutions, and likely solutions I did not think off. The current solution was the simplest, but not necessarily the best: disabling the white/black option for casual AND ranked.
And it has nothing to do with playing 100% with white only gives improves your rating by about 22 rating points on the long run, because you can clearly see, it has been disabled for Casual, too. So the ranking wasnt the issue for disabling it.

They never said ranking was the problem for disabling it. They said it was because people abused it to only play white

Rather, it was the lack of consent when the automatching paired quickpairing players white-seekers.

Correct

The solution would be to not automatch white-seekers with players who went of the quickpairing page. Such white seekers appear in the lobby only.

This would be to treat them as an entirely different class of matches. Has implications on ratings, settings, pairing stats, and again: This means the lobby UI is going to clutter with these people.

Furthermore, if the number of games would swamp the lobby, then you could disable white/black for bullet time controls and blitz 3+0, as these time controls are by far the most played chosen time controls.

Anyway, better solutions exist, but I dont think beDecent lets it happen to seriously discuss them.

Of course I do. I just point out why your suggestions are wrong, and how unfounded your claims are

but instead spams this thread, repeatedly referring to players (who have used the feature white/black) as "abusers". He does that on purpose, his way of trolling fun, isnt it?

Nope, wrong! I refer to people who have abused the feature as abusers. That, I do in fact on purpose, since it's true.

@Sofia-Mary said in #733:

So, you already started to calculate them. What do you think, how long do you need? I can not wait for so long, because I am so, so, so impatient and curious about the "abuser" numbers.

If you are so impatient, you are welcome to calculate them yourself too!

I am not going through all your nonsense again. But ye, you talked about years of sandbagging was possible unpunished, as an example. Others will remember that?
No need to prove it to, you, as you know quite well how long you know lichess.

@Munich said in #736:

I am not going through all your nonsense again. But ye, you talked about years of sandbagging was possible unpunished, as an example.

Nope, wrong!

Others will remember that?

No, since you're wrong again

No need to prove it to, you, as you know quite well how long you know lichess.

Of course not, the core of all of your message consist of profoundly untrue statements

the advantage of spaming messages in this thread is, that it is quite cumbersome to quote you what you said 3 days ago.

@Munich said in #732:

my point is that if you preach water, but secretly drink wine, you might question his intentions?

Its a lot to read, but if you read through his messages, beDecent gave indeed the impression he knows lichess for many years now. His account looks like that?

The white/black feature is missed, and there are solutions, and likely solutions I did not think off. The current solution was the simplest, but not necessarily the best: disabling the white/black option for casual AND ranked.
And it has nothing to do with playing 100% with white only gives improves your rating by about 22 rating points on the long run, because you can clearly see, it has been disabled for Casual, too. So the ranking wasnt the issue for disabling it.

Rather, it was the lack of consent when the automatching paired quickpairing players white-seekers.
The solution would be to not automatch white-seekers with players who went of the quickpairing page. Such white seekers appear in the lobby only.
Furthermore, if the number of games would swamp the lobby, then you could disable white/black for bullet time controls and blitz 3+0, as these time controls are by far the most played chosen time controls.

Anyway, better solutions exist, but I dont think beDecent lets it happen to seriously discuss them, but instead spams this thread, repeatedly referring to players (who have used the feature white/black) as "abusers". He does that on purpose, his way of trolling fun, isnt it?

I don't know it this message was for me, but I still don't see the relevance.

Why are the number of posts versus his games relevant? Why are we achieving by pointing that out, and what does it have to do with the topic?

"I don't know it this message was for me, but I still don't see the relevance."

Are you beDecentForAChange? I wonder why you need to be explained the sky is blue.