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Trans players in chess

All anyone is asking for is to be accepted for who they are and to be able to play chess as that person, not as someone else. Accepting people is not a burden on anyone else.
you are correct for all the wrong reasons. people are born, man or woman, and cant change that.
Seriously? Do you really think trans people decide to be trans? yes its his/her choice. if anybody hates you for the way your born, ignore them. brush off the hatred and move on. find better social circles. and trans isnt the solution its all choice to change your identity, but your true identity lies under all the fakeness.
@Brian-E said in #81:
> Agreed, but you yourself have also just stuck your oar in with a posting which is as hurtful and damaging as any other. If you think you've posted something which should be the last word, think again.
was open to discussion. just making a point. people have to accept the way their born, and thats it. if anything FIDE should be more inclusive to the innocent russians who have no support for this political garbage. dont want to head into that topic anyway, just giving a example
if my comments are annoying, you can simply ignore them. this is for everyone to see and to realize.
@IPlayGambits12 said in #85:
> was open to discussion. just making a point. people have to accept the way their born, and thats it. if anything FIDE should be more inclusive to the innocent russians who have no support for this political garbage. dont want to head into that topic anyway, just giving a example

My thoughts are with those people in Russia who are Trans but, obviously, cannot be themselves. Focussing on trans chessplayers in Russia, wouldn't it be a wonderful experience if the international body FIDE makes a clear statement of policy that recognises their right to play as themselves, even if in practice they still cannot because their country won't accept that. It would nonetheless be a beacon of hope. Hope that the world, eventually including even Russia, can one day change and accept them. Meanwhile all the other "innocent russians who have no support for this policial garbage" will accept and move on.

I know, that's easy for me to say in my West European country, and it probably comes over as pretty patronising of me too, but I hope for these things.
@OldTimes said in #74:
> I fear you may have misunderstood some parts of my message.
> Online harassment can be severe only if the involved person has their personal data publicly available, a scenario not mentioned by QueenRosieMary earlier.
> Many years ago, on another platform, I had a female nickname. I never received any "abuse" (it makes me laugh just to write such a term related to a board game).
> Just a few people asked if I was a titled player since I had a competitive rating or, at most, if I was beautiful or not.
> I either didn't respond or replied with "who knows."
> That was the extent of my issues during my time with a female name as my nickname.
>
> If I had to say, people were generally kinder on average.
> As for the over-the-board world, I believe women don't face any problems and are even pampered.
> To put things in perspective: I learned to play chess on my own when I was already an adult, I didn't receive any discounts in tournaments, no favors, no anything and I played because I found it to be a fun pastime.
> If I were a woman, I would now be in the top 5 of my country and, I suppose, relatively 'famous' (other than having a WIM title).
> I am a man, and I am nothing special as a chess player (and it's OK, It's a game!)

The problem with how you're coming across is you're approaching this from a "well I've not seen it, therefore it's not true" perspective.

You may have had a female handle. Lovely. But that handle may not have led anywhere. Some females may have the same username as on their instagram or on their tiktok. Therefore someone could quite easily search their social media during a chess game, find the person in question, then begin to send them abuse or try and engage in sexual chat simply because they are female. I don't know whether this is going on. Crucially, neither do you. The only people that would know that this is going on are the victims themselves and generally speaking, people aren't going to lie about this stuff so if it is happening then we should believe them and support them rather than dismiss it out of hand because of notional experiences or because "hey, it's only words, what do they matter?"

A small deal for you may be a big deal for somebody else.
@Streltsy said in #77:
> It's backed by sources. Riley Gaines has several. This is from a woman named Patricia Silva: "Good day I just wanted to say I just came out of Planet Fitness. And there is a man shaving in a woman's bathroom. I realize he wants to be a woman. He gets to be a woman. I love him in Christ. He's a spiritual being having a human experience. He doesn't like his gender. So he wants to be a woman. But I'm not comfortable with him shaving in my bathroom. All right, I just thought I'd say out loud."

In my gym shaving is prohibited in any place, it's just bad practice and lack of respect toward other people.
If I caught a man shaving himself in the dressing room I'd be weirded out too.

Not a great example you got there and also something unrelated to what I asked.
@Brian-E said in #87:
> My thoughts are with those people in Russia who are Trans but, obviously, cannot be themselves. Focussing on trans chessplayers in Russia, wouldn't it be a wonderful experience if the international body FIDE makes a clear statement of policy that recognises their right to play as themselves, even if in practice they still cannot because their country won't accept that. It would nonetheless be a beacon of hope. Hope that the world, eventually including even Russia, can one day change and accept them. Meanwhile all the other "innocent russians who have no support for this policial garbage" will accept and move on.
>
> I know, that's easy for me to say in my West European country, and it probably comes over as pretty patronising of me too, but I hope for these things.
i wasnt really talking about trans in russia i was comparing the 2 situations, trans discrimintion and discrimination toward russia due to the war politics. was just sharing my opinion on trans.
@IPlayGambits12 said in #83:
> All anyone is asking for is to be accepted for who they are

They can't accept who they are, but we're supposed to accept that they can't accept who they are and pretend they are something they are not?

Sense, you make none.
@basmati94 "Some females may have the same username as on their instagram or on their tiktok. Therefore someone could quite easily search their social media during a chess game, find the person in question, then begin to send them abuse or try and engage in sexual chat simply because they are female".

Then Thats simply stupid, mistake of the female to keep accounts like that, also how ridiculious it is for somebody to search there opponent's user id online and check their insta, tiktok, hardly 0.1% of people will do something like this, also people dont understand to block the people who send them stupid msgs and rather they come and say that online chess is not safe blah blah just report block move on and also you can report someone in the game chat if they're saying some bs
@felixnothus said in #88:
> They can't accept who they are, but we're supposed to accept that they can't accept who they are and pretend they are something they are not?
>
> Sense, you make none.

The words you quote are actually mine because in the posting you are responding to, and several others posted at that time, the quoting went awry. So I'll respond to your response briefly.

Trans people have done pretty much the ultimate self-acceptance by acknowledging who they are. They have done that in the face of overwhelming rejection and hostility, even if they are in the most liberal and progressive societies on Earth. If you are looking for someone who really knows what self-awareness and self-acceptance is, look no further than a transgender person.

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