The Cheating Issue

What you're look in for @Startinganewgamesoon is the truth of chess , like Fischer ,good luck with that , make sure you don't go mad ,......looking.....just enjoy the game for what it is, a conundrum!! ha ha ha that no one ever masters not even Magnus , the goat xxx

@Startinganewgamesoon said in #28:

Can you prove it, maybe you people are just , dare I say a bit weak...
Yes I think lichess has got many cheaters, and I still play here regardless.

Could you either provide some evidence, or spam a different thread?
Because the game that op provided very clearly features no cheating, as I've described in my posts.

https://www.firstpost.com/sports/chess/magnus-carlsen-on-playing-against-chess-computer-engine-difficulty-joe-rogan-podcast-13867015.html

So there, even a top player, can feel useless and horrible when being defeated by an engine.
And that's why so many players here feel similar, when suspecting cheating.

@Startinganewgamesoon said in #33

So there, even a top player, can feel useless and horrible when being defeated by an engine.
And that's why so many players here feel similar, when suspecting cheating.

But just think of the day when you beat a cheater , not knowingly, and 'they ' flummoxed over how you did it .............small victories @Startinganewgamesoon ....u never know xxx ....small victories xxx you don't know what's going on behind the scenes , you said it yourself , play to win xxx

Enough from me for now , I'm out of this thread....

So wait a minute. 22 opponents were cheating? consecutively? lichess should ban all 22?
you were having a bad day. it happens.

My opponents don't cheat, they just fluke literally everything!

there are cheaters to be sure, but, how would someone rated 1500 or lower cheat and not raise their rating to 2800? i struggle to find a plausible explanation.

they could cheat, say, every 10th game. since you like stats, what would be the odds you played 22 players in a row who were on their 10th game where they cheated, rather than the 9 other games where they had a 50/50 chance of losing to you?

they could purposely lose every second game and cheat every second game to maintain their low rating, I don't know why anyone would do that, but still, what are the odds you faced 22 players in a row who were on their cheat round?

or maybe you faced 22 players in a row who just started cheating, and you were their first opponent. what are the odds on that? also they would be now 2800 and raising eyebrows as a previously low rated player wins 100s of games in a row and increased their rating 2000 points.

occasionally I get suspicious, sometimes because during the game I feel my opponent is playing superhuman moves, but whenever I analyse one of those games I see they blundered every second move and I didn't see it at the time, so didn't take advantage of their blunder.

the other times I get suspicious is after I move my opponent goes offline for 10 seconds.

but very rarely, like maybe once per year, I get a notification I lost to a cheater. I believe at my level, it's rare to lose to a cheater based on 1 data point.

@h2b2 said in #38:

... what would be the odds you played 22 players in a row who were on their 10th game where they cheated, rather than the 9 other games where they had a 50/50 chance of losing to you?

they could purposely lose every second game and cheat every second game to maintain their low rating, I don't know why anyone would do that, but still, what are the odds you faced 22 players in a row who were on their cheat round?

or maybe you faced 22 players in a row who just started cheating

OP didn't even lose 22 games in a row, they were just unhappy because in their first 29 games on lichess they won only 6, lost 22 and drew 1. So of course, everyone is cheating.

Here's my counter argument question.

When someone wins 22 games in a row, how come that person doesn't complain he is cheating?