The Cheating Issue

@Enders_Gambit said in #10:

I mean I'm a low elo player, of course I'm not going to know every mate or play the best moves. That's expected. However, it's a pretty common cheater tactic to play poorly in the opening, and then turn on their cheat engine. This guy hung his queen and rook. I was up what 8 material at least and in a good position? And then he was hitting every move within a couple seconds avoiding checkmate, taking material, play completely differently than in the opening and middle game. He's sus. Honestly, his accuracy only skyrocketed because of the end game, that is completely sus.
But surely when he only had his king left, it makes sense that he would be quicker to move - sometimes he only had 2 or 3 options to pick from.

Get a progress of 100% and nothing less and then you can talk about how others win games.
https://lichess.org/learn
https://lichess.org/practice
This one is to learn the chessboard: So that you can then read chess moves without a chessboard and be able to visualise it.
https://lichess.org/training/coordinate

Master end games, and you will win more games.
Rating: 1125.54. @Enders_Gambit is better than 25.1% of Rapid players.
That's not bad at all for that rating. When you reach the peak of the distribution, consider the rest in another category.
https://lichess.org/stat/rating/distribution/rapid?username=Enders_Gambit
You nearly reached the peak. Being in the middle third is a fine place to be. Not everyone can be in the top third.

@Startinganewgamesoon said in #6:

Those Cheating issues, have been around since players started to notice strange game behaviour, basically since the early days of lichess, so it's nothing new around here.
Maybe try and focus on crushing those ones.
Coming out victorious against them , feels like a double win, one for the rating, and one for the anger it possibly brings them.

Not much will happen, because it's been identical behaviour with other suspects for many years now.
I don't understand the politics of lichess, they seem to have no solid foundation when it comes to taking chess players serious.
Is lichess a joke website?, or is it just about having a platform with a free service.
Who knows it might just be an Internet experiment....
I give Lichess a pass since at least they don't charge for anything. That's why I came here in the first place. I think there's more cheaters here than on Chess com though. I don't understand the people who claim that cheating is low or nonexistent, when cheaters plague every online game, including those with an actual anti-cheat. I mean Valorant has kernal level anti-cheat, and they still ban millions of players annually. It's completely ridiculous to assume it's not prevalent here, when there's really no anti-cheat. You can cheat with a web browser extension lmao

@AFinn said in #11:

Just pointing out that, at the time you wrote this there is exactly one downvote on the whole of this thread. It's almost as if you're trolling...
Bollocks

@AFinn said in #12:

But surely when he only had his king left, it makes sense that he would be quicker to move - sometimes he only had 2 or 3 options to pick from.
Sure, but think, you're 1800, so you intuitively know what your next moves should be a lot of the times. In fact, I've heard from higher skilled players such as yourself, that intuition is a pretty important skill that you gain after playing so much, and that's what you're supposed to rely upon in bullet for instance.

I'm 1100. If I make moves that quick, I'm going to blunder and probably get checkmated. That's why I stick to rapid for the most part because I can take time to think. This guy didn't. If you watch, all his moves would have put me in a precarious position, and I had to take at least twice as long as him to see that. I would have lost on time if I hadn't forced a draw.

@Enders_Gambit said in #14:

I give Lichess a pass since at least they don't charge for anything. That's why I came here in the first place. I think there's more cheaters here than on Chess com though. I don't understand the people who claim that cheating is low or nonexistent, when cheaters plague every online game, including those with an actual anti-cheat. I mean Valorant has kernal level anti-cheat, and they still ban millions of players annually. It's completely ridiculous to assume it's not prevalent here, when there's really no anti-cheat. You can cheat with a web browser extension lmao

Anti Cheat, ???? If you know wrestling is scripted, then you can also tell that the anti cheat software is also fake info....its only able to catch players using lichess analysis board during games....

@Enders_Gambit

The game you posted, I am wondering at what point he cheated? what cheater aspires to be down a bishop and a rook in the endgame? what engine plays with 80% accuracy and makes 5 blunders? stockfish negative23? It would be so tedious to be a cheater and maintain a 1000 elo rating, considering a cellphone can play at 3000+ level.

The endgoal of cheating is to win with an unfair advantage, your opponent did not win, nor had an advantage. I think this is a case of, oh I didn't win, so therefore my opponent must be cheating, because there is no other way I wouldn't be able to win.

With the easy of access of today's technology, chess should now change into a "Collaborative Art".

Rethinking how success is defined in chess by playing the chessboard with 3 players. You play a move a flip the chessboard to the next player. By the time you get the chessboard again, you will have alternated colours. Basically removing the need to play with assistance, since you don't know who will get checkmated until the end. Each player in the endgame will try to avoid the checkmate so they don't get eliminated. The last 3 in the tournament are declared the winners.

Cooperation and Alliances: Team chess with 6 players. Three on one side and three on the other. One side is white the other is black, so the chessboard does not rotate, but the three players each get their turn to play a move. The checkmate would still apply, but now, the checkmate would affect 3 players instead of one. It would reduce cheating, because there would be less control over the outcomes.

There is more to chess than using assistance. Chess just needs to be played differently so that cheaters do not dominate the chessboard.

@Enders_Gambit said in #3:

Like I just played this guy, he hung his queen, lost a ton of material right, and then somehow every move afterward was on average 2-4 seconds, couldn't even mate the guy, honestly I got completely outplayed at the end even though he played horrible throughout the opening and middle game. Eventually I just settled on a draw. I already reported him, but I don't think anything is going to happen. Also this is game 23..like wtf man. I'm about done to be honest. I mean statistically, it's really unlikely. He maybe I don't belong at 1100 on Lichess idk. I'm the same elo on Chess with not nearly as many losses. Like it's about 50% for me there, so that would actually make sense statistically. Not 6 and 23 lmao.

The only thing that game tells me is that you need to work on basic K+R checkmate patterns. You had almost 4 minutes on the clock and couldn't figure out how to end the game!

IMO people get it in their heads that everyone is cheating against them and it makes them play worse.

I checked some of the games you played and rhe number of games your opponents have played. My observations

• they played more games than you so their rating is more consistent than yours
• you are probably lower rated than you claim to be or lower rated than most of the opponents you play
• I don't see cheating. You just need to work on your tactical awareness. Most of the tactics are telegraphed by your opponent and you missed the fatal ones.