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@Onyx_Chess

"Failure to answer will serve as an unabated concession."
Wow what a demanding guy. All this over a childish rule called takebacks!

"Quite often, they're really not at fault.
Quite often, it's a software/hardware issue."
Often? I use an old computer and a third-hand mouse and it's NEVER happened to me. I've made mouse-slips, sure, but that's when I wasn't paying attention to the board. I don't feel the need to plead for a takeback. And even if there are magical software issues that can mysteriously cause mouse-slips in your games, no offence mate, but I still consider that your fault. Got a terrible computer/mouse? Get a new one.

"a. How many consecutive games of chess would you have to play, where your opponent lost because of a glitch, before you would request a takeback rule so that you could enjoy a good game of actual chess again?"
I lose to my opponents too much to give any sympathy to them. So I'll happily take all those wins. :)

"b. Barring the capacity for a takeback option, how many consecutive games, where your opponent lost because of a glitch, would you tolerate before you'd declare your 100-0 chess record "a waste of time" and move on to something else?"
Why is the guy playing 100 games if he has that serious of a computer issue? What imaginary world is this? Can we have realistic questions please?

"Bonus Question A) What is your purpose for sitting down at the chess board?"
To beat the opponent at a game called chess, what else?

"Bonus Question B) As you're playing a tough position, do you hope that your opponent glitches/slips so that you can have an easy "win"?"
I don't hope for such infrequent things. I don't think it's seriously happened to me in the last month. But when it does happen, it's not my problem.

Fans of takebacks fail to understand that nobody has the obligation to clean up after their opponent's problems. Seriously, it's really not my problem if my opponent screws up somehow. Their problem, their consequences.
@box_boxed

["a. How many consecutive games of chess would you have to play, where your opponent lost because of a glitch, before you would request a takeback rule so that you could enjoy a good game of actual chess again?"
I lose to my opponents too much to give any sympathy to them. So I'll happily take all those wins. :)]

Concession accepted.

["b. Barring the capacity for a takeback option, how many consecutive games, where your opponent lost because of a glitch, would you tolerate before you'd declare your 100-0 chess record "a waste of time" and move on to something else?"
Why is the guy playing 100 games if he has that serious of a computer issue? What imaginary world is this? Can we have realistic questions please?]

Apologies, the question wasn't clear.

Here it is again, reworded:

Let's say that there is no takeback option.
Let's say that your next 100 opponents all glitch their queens.
Let's say that as a result you go 100-0.
How long could you keep up that practice before you'd consider chess to be a complete waste of time?
@LaSolitaDomenica

Apologies, it wasn't stated clearly:

Let's say that there is no takeback option.
Let's say that your next 100 opponents all glitch their queens.
Let's say that as a result you go 100-0.
How long could you keep up that practice before you'd consider chess to be a complete waste of time?
@Onyx_Chess

"Retraction accepted."
Sorry, what am I retracting? I just said I wouldn't give any takebacks whatsoever even if it costs my opponents their games. Seems pretty consistent with that I've said all along.

"Let's say that there is no takeback option.
Let's say that your next 100 opponents all glitch their queens.
Let's say that as a result you go 100-0.
How long could you keep up that practice before you'd consider chess to be a complete waste of time?"

No, it was me who wasn't clear. So here it is again: Can you stop making up imaginary situations that don't happen? In what universe do my next 100 opponents blunder their queens due to mouseslips? Is this heaven? :P
["Retraction accepted."]

Thanks for the correction. I meant "concession". Fixed.

[No, it was me who wasn't clear. So here it is again: Can you stop making up imaginary situations that don't happen? In what universe do my next 100 opponents blunder their queens due to mouseslips? Is this heaven? :P]

Concession accepted.

@Onyx_Chess Again, what is this "retraction" or "concession" you speak of? My position has not changed a bit from the beginning. And if you think it has, kindly point it out!

Maybe you don't quite know what a "retraction" or "concession" means? Or you're just another internet troll? Are you here to waste time?
The takebeggars take over, once again. You‘ll never learn?
For rated games, it's simpler to auto-decline takebacks. in shorter time-controls, games have a flow. I find takeback requests are distracting and break my thought-flow. For longer time controls, I still think all takebacks should be declined. In real life, there is the concept of touch-move. You touch a piece, you must move it. It's similar with online chess in my opinion, once a move is made (mouseslip or not), it's done period. I don't ask for takebacks and I auto-decline takebacks. It keeps it all simple - I can zen in on the chess position and enjoy the game.

@sargon is pretty spot on with his takebeggar comment. It is a bad practice to ask for takebacks for any number of reasons - you won't learn and also you are distracting the opponent in a time-limited game.

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