Hey legend, what is wrong with you people? Can you present any proof that Im cheating?
In this game:
http://en.lichess.org/2nr9it6f/black
Sure_Win (all moves 4-5 seconds or longer, most moves 6-7 seconds long, beats kai and suspicion rate (website algorithm) shows 80 percent chance of cheating.
Kai was a cheater for sure. Heres one of your games
which i analyzed with Rybka.
kai 1637 vs Sure_Win 1490 0-1
1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 (last book move)c6 (black threatens to win material)
4. Nc3 (Alternate moves: 4.Qe2 e4 5. d3 cxd5 6. dxe4 dxe4 7. Qxe4+ Be7) exf4
5. Nf3 Bd6 6. Ne4 (Alternate move: 6. d4 Nf6=) cxd5
7. Bb5+ Nc6 8. Nxd6+ Qxd6 9. c3 Ne7 (white has a cramped position)10. O-O (improves king safety) O-O 11. Qa4 Ng6 12. d4 Bf5 (white has a cramped position)13. Bd2 f6 14. Rae1 a6 15. Bxc6 bxc6 16. c4
Rfb8 17. b3 Bd3 18. Rf2 Rc8 19. Bb4 Qc7 20. Rc1 dxc4 21. bxc4 Qf7 22. Bc5 (The bishop is a bishop!) Qe6 23. Qb3 (whites threatens material) Be4 24. Nd2 f5 25. Qh3 Re8 26. a4 Rab8 27. a5 Qf6 28. Rcf1
Qe6 29. Rc1 Qf6 30. Rcf1 Qe6 31. Nxe4 (Rc1!?= should be examined more closely) fxe4 32. Qxe6+ Rxe6 33. Re2 e3 34. Ree1 Rb2 35. g3 Rf6 36. Rb1 Rxb1 37. Rxb1 f3 38. Kf1 Re6 39. d5? (Ke1) cxd5 40. cxd5
Re5 41. Rb8+ Kf7 42. Rb3 e2+ 43. Ke1 Rf5 44. Bf2 Ne5 45. Be3? (45. h4 Rh5 46. h4 Rf5-+) Ng4 46. Bf4 Nxh2 47. Rd3 g5 48. Be3 Ng4 49. Bf2 (Bg1-+ is the best chance for counterplay) Nxf2 50. Kxf2 g4 51.
Re3 Rh5 52. Re6 Rh2+ 0-1
(Rh2+ is a mate in 13/14 moves on) so kai resigns.
Here is another game with the same two people I analyzed with Rybka again.
This is another game between them where I suspect both used engines.
[Event "Rated Game"]
[Site "http://en.lichess.org/analyse/dl5v67ft"]
[Date "2011.12.19"]
[White "Sure_Win"]
[Black "kai"]
[WhiteElo "1512"]
[BlackElo "1615"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "144"]
[Variant "Standard"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 e6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3 a6 9. e4 c5 10. d5 c4 11. Bc2 Qc7 12. O-O Bb7 13. dxe6 fxe6 14. Ng5 Nc5 (All in on e4)15. Qe2 Bd6 16. f4 e5 17. a4
(last
book move) b4 18. Nd5 Nxd5 (Bxd5 must be considered) 19. exd5 O-O-O 20. Qxc4 exf4 21. Bxf4 Bxf4 22. Rxf4 Rxd5 23. Rf7 Nd7 24. Qxc7+ Kxc7 25. Rxg7 Re8 26. Ne4 b3 27. Bxb3 Rxe4 28. Bxd5 Bxd5 29. Rd1
Bc6
30. b3 Re3 31. Rb1 Re2 32. Rc1 Kd6 33. Rd1+ Ke6 34. Kf1 Ra2 35. Re1+ Kf6 (even game so far) 36. Ree7 Ne5 37. Ra7 Be4 38. Rg8 h5 39. Rf8+ Ke6 40. Rf2 Ra1+ 41. Ke2 Kd5 42. h3 (Ra8!? deserves
consideration) Kd4 43. Rg7 Rb1 44. Rf6 Bd3+ 45. Kd2 Rb2+ 46. Ke1 Be4 47. Rd6+ Ke3 48. Rg3+ Kf4 49. Rc3 Rxg2 50. Rf6+ Bf5 51. Kf1 Ra2 52. h4 Rh2 53. Rc8 Nf3 54. Rc3 Nd2+ 55. Ke1? (Kg1 with advantage
for black) Ne4 56. Rc4 Rxh4 57. a5 Ke3 58. Rxf5 (the worst move is 58. Kf1 which leads to a mate 16/17moves) Rh1+ 59. Rf1 Rxf1+ 60. Kxf1 Nd2+ 61. Kg2 Nxc4 62. bxc4 Kd4 63. Kg3 Kxc4 64. Kh4 Kb5 65.
Kxh5 Kxa5 66. Kg6 Kb4 67. Kf6 a5 68. Ke5 a4 69. Kd4 Kb3 70. Kd3 (Ke5 is a lost game mate in ~10) a3 71. Ke4 a2 72. Kf5 a1=Q 0-1 (mate on move 81).
In the last game there is no major mistakes.
In just about all your games youve won the move times are slow even on obvious moves you take 4-5 seconds at a minimum.
You played perfect openings,
avoid mates which were to come several moves later...
These type of games are more typical of higher lvl play.
We can return your points but youll have to prove us wrong.
Would be nice to know to if you have a real life rating as well...
it is sad that you have to do this. by doing this you are discouraging rated players to play in your site. what is good playing chess in the internet like this site is you can experiment. I even
played chess 960 which you may know cheating is impossible unless you know you can cheat in chess960 I am not aware if there be any!
There are times that you just wanted to have fun. I call it the "King Maneuver, the Bong Attack! or whatever you may call it" and there are times that I want to play serious chess. And the ones you
just analysed are one of those times.
Goodluck in moderating this site. I even played @instantchess.com
oops! lol I forgot to log out as the the_Truth now you know the truth and Sure_Win is the same person. the_Truth is my alter ego. Now if you insist I can meet you personally if you want to play
without the internet connection.
Bye
I played at instantchess.com long ago also.
It was a very nice site imo. However you have to pay now I think so I play at others including here.
You can experiment on this website. Just in rated games using chess engine is not allowed.
If you really used engine I would like you to admit it.
If you didnt please answer some of the earlier questions (You have a real rating? What was your rating on instantchess?) and say no you didnt cheat...
Remember we can return your rating..
i did not cheat. I already beat mb, controlaltdelete and other high ranked players in this site in 1 minute games and some of them by way of checkmate and you are the only elusive person that i didn't
beat as the_Truth because of your magical time (and you are aware of that)
I am an engineer and the champion of a recently conducted chess competition in our company and believe me its a big company in our country.
I don't have a rating im a professional engineer not a professional chess player but growing tired of this debate you can do whatever you want, except ban me from using this site. In my opinion this
site can receive a nobel prize if chessplayers
around the globe will vote.
Good site
@The_truth/sure_win
the only people we're discouraging are cheaters. if you don't cheat you have nothing to worry about. every serious chess site online enforces the same discipline. if you don't like it go play on
yahoo or take up another hobby.
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