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MaxNg2004

For example, Magnus is now 2865. If he wins against a 1500, he would just be +_0 right? But is it possible to lose rating when winning?

Rookitiki edited

#2

It’s obviously not. Just think about it for a while and you realize why.

It is however possible not to gain anything for a win if the rating difference is very high (coz it’s rounded down). Diminishing returns will never reach zero. Edit: If Magnus played enough 1500 and always won, eventually he would be up a point in this theoretical world. Here the reason why it’s only in theory:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wofz0k6FCMU

Magnus weak European stomach can’t handle Indian food =)

It’s obviously not. Just think about it for a while and you realize why. It is however possible not to gain anything for a win if the rating difference is very high (coz it’s rounded down). Diminishing returns will never reach zero. Edit: If Magnus played enough 1500 and always won, eventually he would be up a point in this theoretical world. Here the reason why it’s only in theory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wofz0k6FCMU Magnus weak European stomach can’t handle Indian food =)

IndianDoraemon

#3

I laughed so much while reading this post that I shitted my pants.

CM Sarg0n

#4

If you win against Chuck Norris. But that won’t happen.

sheckley666

#5

@MaxNg2004 said in #1:

For example, Magnus is now 2865. If he wins against a 1500, he would just be +_0 right? But is it possible to lose rating when winning?
AFAIK, with FIDE Elo you get always at least one point plus for a win.

@MaxNg2004 said in #1: > For example, Magnus is now 2865. If he wins against a 1500, he would just be +_0 right? But is it possible to lose rating when winning? AFAIK, with FIDE Elo you get always at least one point plus for a win.

ProAmongUs

#6

@IndianDoraemon said in #3:

I laughed so much while reading this post that I shitted my pants.
What ? Shit your pants ?

@IndianDoraemon said in #3: > I laughed so much while reading this post that I shitted my pants. What ? Shit your pants ?

hisokaxhunter

#7

No just 0 probably when opponent differ 700-800

zen_queen

#8

If Magnus has Elo 2855 and plays against an opponent with Elo 1500, the difference is reduced to 400 points, according to the FIDE handbook. So the calculations are done with the opponent having virtually Elo 2455, and Magnus himself is a player of Elo 1900 for our 1500-opponent. This explains why you always get at least 1 point if you win, and lose at least 1 point if you lose the game.

RamblinDave

#9

No, but it'd be quite a good bit of trash talk - "you're so bad I'm losing rating just for being in the same room as you!"

Abigail-III

#10

@zen_queen said in #8:

If Magnus has Elo 2855 and plays against an opponent with Elo 1500, the difference is reduced to 400 points, according to the FIDE handbook. So the calculations are done with the opponent having virtually Elo 2455, and Magnus himself is a player of Elo 1900 for our 1500-opponent. This explains why you always get at least 1 point if you win, and lose at least 1 point if you lose the game.

So, if Magnus wants to get a 3000 rating, all he has to do is find 145 low level players who want to play him in an official match? I bet there are tons of low level players who'd pay for the opportunity to play the world champion.

@zen_queen said in #8: > If Magnus has Elo 2855 and plays against an opponent with Elo 1500, the difference is reduced to 400 points, according to the FIDE handbook. So the calculations are done with the opponent having virtually Elo 2455, and Magnus himself is a player of Elo 1900 for our 1500-opponent. This explains why you always get at least 1 point if you win, and lose at least 1 point if you lose the game. So, if Magnus wants to get a 3000 rating, all he has to do is find 145 low level players who want to play him in an official match? I bet there are tons of low level players who'd pay for the opportunity to play the world champion.