Is it normal to have a win streak around 30-50 ?

@RickRenegade said in #30:

Absolutely standard for a higher rated player to beat a lower rated player 30 games in a row. Especially when the higher rated player is faster and can just flag after making a mistake.

I remember an anecdote of more than 20 years ago when I was in Chennai (India). A local guy came to me and challenged me for a game of chess (so on the board chess not online chess). He was 100% sure that he would win from me. He lost but insisted on a re-match. He lost again and again insisted on a re-match. After the 5th loss he told me that I was a strong player. After the 10th loss he told me that I am a very strong player. Only after 25 consecutive losses he finally gave up trying to win a game and realized you can't bridge a big gap of playing-strength by just playing more games (these were all casual rapid games played without clock so where my opponent often thought too long/ the 25 games were spread over several weeks).

I just mention this funny story to indicate how wrong some amateurs are about their own skills. Many weak players have no clue at all about how weak they are and how much it will take to get them better. In fact there is a link here with the other ongoing discussion about why there are not much high rated players on forums. It is often impossible to discuss something about chess when there is a big difference of playingstrength. It is something which I also mentioned in my article http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.com/2022/03/amateurs.html

I had a win streak of 9 games with longer time controls.. don’t quite know how I managed it tbh... but at 5 minute games I’ve hardly won any. Thus I only rarely play such short games... I’d probably run out of time against a 3 yr old. Makes my head want to explode.

I’d say, guess is maybe more correct, that if you’re always playing much lower rated players then a big win streak is possible but against players at your own level, then most likely not. Even against lower rated players you’re always likely to play a bad game or run into someone who plays an outstanding game.

I’ve played many many games against one opponent over a long time. He has improved massively and I have not. When we started playing we were even stevens, I was even leading by several games and now I haven’t beaten him for about 30 games. So, yes, a long winning streak is possible.

@pointlesswindows said in #4:

In normal conditions it's impossible to have more than 5-6 win streak. Even if you play only much weaker opponents you can achieve 10-12. Above 20 is pure cheating.
According to your logic anyone having a win streak above 20 is cheating. Then why do people like Lance5500 have a win streak of 380 in rapid. Don’t just say stuff without justification. It depends on the skill of people. If they aren’t skilled, they won’t have a good win streak, and if they are skilled and have a high rating they will have a better win streak.

@ChessMVPmaster said in #33:

According to your logic anyone having a win streak above 20 is cheating. Then why do people like Lance5500 have a win streak of 380 in rapid. Don’t just say stuff without justification. It depends on the skill of people. If they aren’t skilled, they won’t have a good win streak, and if they are skilled and have a high rating they will have a better win streak.
I notice that Lance5500 plays against averagely 1000 lower rated players (rapid). So I am not surprised at all then you can manage this way a streak of 380 but is it ethically ok to do that? Even if it is to point out weaknesses of beginners then still I believe there are better and less rude ways to do that. Laughing with the mistakes of others is legally not forbidden but not something a gentleman would do. I also notice some sites now start to forbid making new accounts to just do speedruns (starting from 0 and go as fast as possible so preferably with a long winningstreak to an online toprating) at the expense of the community.

I had 35 games unbeaten streak but across different time controls. And my friend in a joking way said that I may have cheated. And most of games were Blitz rather than Bullet.

@pointlesswindows said in #4:

In normal conditions it's impossible to have more than 5-6 win streak. Even if you play only much weaker opponents you can achieve 10-12. Above 20 is pure cheating.

Complete and utter nonsense.

2000 vs 1000 30 - 0 is standard.

@RickRenegade said in #36:

Complete and utter nonsense.

2000 vs 1000 30 - 0 is standard.

He said 'normal condition' which you certainly missed!
Plus, I don't say that one is cheating if they have quite big streak as he said.

@pointlesswindows
You are wrong about latter point of yours.
I had 35 game unbeaten streak at Lichess across all time controls and variants (I hardly played any variants).
In OTB chess, Ding had unbeaten streak of 100 games and Tal had 96 games (best win ratio by anyone in longest streaks)
They weren't under special circumstances rather both played championships with Tal being unsound like always but still managing so long streak which is most unbelievable.

@Akbar2thegreat said in #37:

I had 35 game unbeaten streak at Lichess across all time controls and variants (I hardly played any variants).
In OTB chess, Ding had unbeaten streak of 100 games and Tal had 96 games (best win ratio by anyone in longest streaks)
They weren't under special circumstances rather both played championships with Tal being unsound like always but still managing so long streak which is most unbelievable.
There exists an enormous difference between winstreak and unbeaten-streak. For even only 10 games this can be factor 100 more difficult. So don't mix both. At lichess we are only talking about winstreaks.

@peppie23 said in #38:

There exists an enormous difference between winstreak and unbeaten-streak. For even only 10 games this can be factor 100 more difficult. So don't mix both. At lichess we are only talking about winstreaks.
We are talking about streak not necessarily win streak.
Online it's pretty easy even I have 35 game unbeaten streak.
Offline it's much way harder.
And don't mix online and offline either.
Plus, online chess nowadays is a joke hence talking about it doesn't matter.

@Eyon-chess said in #1:

I play chess every day here in lichess. And I often check the historical statistics in the profile of my opponents. Allmost every day, I see that an opponent has a historic win streak of around 30 to 50 games. That means they have won 30-50 games in a row with no loss or draw in between. Is that normal, or does a win streak like that indicate that they have cheated ?

Does the profile "win streak" number include games against Stockfish? Does the number include unrated games? If yes to either of these, then it's easy to see how someone could easily build long winning streaks.