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I'm a Black Man and Feel that my contribution to the Chess World is Ignored because my Color

@michuk bro, i didn't intend to offend you in any way. i was joking about the guy misconceptioning. you are actually confused about what i am saying. if i made you feel bad, i am sorry but i didn't intend to hurt you. you are always welcome in this community no matter your age race colour or anything.

@michuk bro, i didn't intend to offend you in any way. i was joking about the guy misconceptioning. you are actually confused about what i am saying. if i made you feel bad, i am sorry but i didn't intend to hurt you. you are always welcome in this community no matter your age race colour or anything.

@ChessHydra alex botez has some video about it you can check it out, what she experienced also represents what this guy experiences.

@ChessHydra alex botez has some video about it you can check it out, what she experienced also represents what this guy experiences.

@anonpuzzlessuck like I dont wanna scroll through videos can you pls link it to me

@anonpuzzlessuck like I dont wanna scroll through videos can you pls link it to me

@Itsmidnight listen, i will explain what i was saying like you were a 5 y.o child.

Spanish, Turkish, Australian, Russian, English, French; they are all white.
And Nigerian, South African, Berber, New Guinean; they are all black.
Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Manchurian, Siberian Turk, Uyghur, Vietnamese; they are all yellow.

First sentence, there are races.
Second sentence, there is colours.

You were just breaking down a colour to it's races and telling they were all different in terms of colour which was a logical error or you were telling black men was only composed of one race which is again a logical error. And the error was an elementary one and i told you "you are uneducated as well". I used this term as an insult to the guy who was humiliating the guy who created this thread (and who invented puzzle storm). But i was joking this time by using the same phrase. Did you finally understand?

@Itsmidnight listen, i will explain what i was saying like you were a 5 y.o child. Spanish, Turkish, Australian, Russian, English, French; they are all white. And Nigerian, South African, Berber, New Guinean; they are all black. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Manchurian, Siberian Turk, Uyghur, Vietnamese; they are all yellow. First sentence, there are races. Second sentence, there is colours. You were just breaking down a colour to it's races and telling they were all different in terms of colour which was a logical error or you were telling black men was only composed of one race which is again a logical error. And the error was an elementary one and i told you "you are uneducated as well". I used this term as an insult to the guy who was humiliating the guy who created this thread (and who invented puzzle storm). But i was joking this time by using the same phrase. Did you finally understand?

@ChessHydra i am not sure if i can find it, type alexandra botez harassment and it will appear

@ChessHydra i am not sure if i can find it, type alexandra botez harassment and it will appear

@michuk you created puzzle rush and nobody is recognizing your contribution and some even insult you by telling you didn't make any. but know that i appreciate your work and your amazing invention. never get discouraged by stupid people calling you names because of your colour or race. keep up your good work, man.

@michuk you created puzzle rush and nobody is recognizing your contribution and some even insult you by telling you didn't make any. but know that i appreciate your work and your amazing invention. never get discouraged by stupid people calling you names because of your colour or race. keep up your good work, man.

@Yalturkmani you could calm down and not use capslock but i totally agree with your point.

@Yalturkmani you could calm down and not use capslock but i totally agree with your point.

Hi @michuk

Racism is a problem everywhere in the world. But it's not the only one. Abrahamistic religions are equal. They tend to declare their followers as superior to non-followers. Look how they think and act against atheists.

For me there is one rule: All people are equal in respect to value or worth. No two people are equal in respect to their personality. Than there is a fact. We live in a society making profit out of creating differences between the worthyness of people.

Let's take jews and not black people. Salcia Landmann: A prosemit is an antisemit liking jews. This is a deep true sentence. If you expect from a jew something special, b.e. being more intelligent than the average, you are antisemitic. A jew has the right to be as stupid as anybody else. Or as intelligent. Exspecting something special because of his religious origin is wrong.

Back to chess. Here on lichess I don't see my partners in communication. So you may believe me, when I tell to be a 67yo male. But maybe I'm a 45yo female wanting no males talking to me about my sex. Does this matter if we play here? No. It matters in case of a personal chat.

So back to discrimination. I experienced several forms of discrimination in my childhood and youth. Protestant in a roman-catholic surrounding, pacifist in a militaristic society, nationalist teachers supressing me as child, ...

It was part of my coming of age to fight against this discrimination and later it was part of my adulthood to learn to stand to my individual personality traits. I still have have to face backings of my education leading me to discrimination. In my use I decided to fight against it and thougt to be always on the good side. Later I detected this thought as a source of errors. "The way to hell is paved with good intentions."

So fight against discrimination, especially if it hits you. But don't stop there. The world today allows much more resistance than the world of my youth. Speaking of people of colour is in my feeling an aberation. There are white, brown, pink, yellow. You see it and not allowing to say this may have it's value in course of a historic development. But I accept this poc in case my counterpart wants it. For me it's a question of talking about it and then viewing, how people are acting things out.

THE personal hero of my youth was Dr. Martin Luther King. His book Why We Can't Wait Anymore was important for my development. Today younger people have risen and produced good stuff. Choose your heroes! My hero was a black man and it was no offense using this wording in my youth. Today some people take it as an offense. Today I don't need any heroes. Search your hero or heroes today, develop yourself. Be happy one day with a grandchild on your knees. Louis Armstrong, who had an impressive life, has told about his happiness to see children learning much more, than he ever knew. The song is "What a wonderful world."

Wishing you a good journey with successful fights against all kind of mobbing, friendship, love!

Hi @michuk Racism is a problem everywhere in the world. But it's not the only one. Abrahamistic religions are equal. They tend to declare their followers as superior to non-followers. Look how they think and act against atheists. For me there is one rule: All people are equal in respect to value or worth. No two people are equal in respect to their personality. Than there is a fact. We live in a society making profit out of creating differences between the worthyness of people. Let's take jews and not black people. Salcia Landmann: A prosemit is an antisemit liking jews. This is a deep true sentence. If you expect from a jew something special, b.e. being more intelligent than the average, you are antisemitic. A jew has the right to be as stupid as anybody else. Or as intelligent. Exspecting something special because of his religious origin is wrong. Back to chess. Here on lichess I don't see my partners in communication. So you may believe me, when I tell to be a 67yo male. But maybe I'm a 45yo female wanting no males talking to me about my sex. Does this matter if we play here? No. It matters in case of a personal chat. So back to discrimination. I experienced several forms of discrimination in my childhood and youth. Protestant in a roman-catholic surrounding, pacifist in a militaristic society, nationalist teachers supressing me as child, ... It was part of my coming of age to fight against this discrimination and later it was part of my adulthood to learn to stand to my individual personality traits. I still have have to face backings of my education leading me to discrimination. In my use I decided to fight against it and thougt to be always on the good side. Later I detected this thought as a source of errors. "The way to hell is paved with good intentions." So fight against discrimination, especially if it hits you. But don't stop there. The world today allows much more resistance than the world of my youth. Speaking of people of colour is in my feeling an aberation. There are white, brown, pink, yellow. You see it and not allowing to say this may have it's value in course of a historic development. But I accept this poc in case my counterpart wants it. For me it's a question of talking about it and then viewing, how people are acting things out. THE personal hero of my youth was Dr. Martin Luther King. His book Why We Can't Wait Anymore was important for my development. Today younger people have risen and produced good stuff. Choose your heroes! My hero was a black man and it was no offense using this wording in my youth. Today some people take it as an offense. Today I don't need any heroes. Search your hero or heroes today, develop yourself. Be happy one day with a grandchild on your knees. Louis Armstrong, who had an impressive life, has told about his happiness to see children learning much more, than he ever knew. The song is "What a wonderful world." Wishing you a good journey with successful fights against all kind of mobbing, friendship, love!

@michuk

Not sure, if you are another racist troll who tries to make black people and issues of racism (which undoubtedly exist in the "chess world" just like everywhere else), look as if there are no arguments. Everyone who has spent enough time online, knows that it is one strategy of fuming racists or women-haters to troll in this way.

If not: I think it would make more sense to call out specifics rather than making general statements, which only offer a sympathy-reaction (or the opposite).

Racism is a structural problem and a lot of people in this world carry this form of insanity. That sucks and it needs to change. It helps if specific stuff is called-out, because there are also many people who hate this idiocy.

Also, chess makes no sense at all. "Contributions" to the chess world are lichess.org and people like Tal and Capablanca and maybe so people who dig up interesting history. Other than that, it is a game that makes us waste our time in a nice way, but nothing more. Taking out the garbage, doing the dishes, planting a tree, raising a child - all of this is way more contribution than chess could ever be.

  • Especially since the current level of chess engines and opening theory chips away at the foundation of the already senseless game and makes it even more senseless. Just see the average comments on GM games, where people react solely to - and repeat - engine valuations as their "opinion". Chess is still nice, but I see you're already a lichess contributor, so you're one of the few who do something good.
@michuk Not sure, if you are another racist troll who tries to make black people and issues of racism (which undoubtedly exist in the "chess world" just like everywhere else), look as if there are no arguments. Everyone who has spent enough time online, knows that it is one strategy of fuming racists or women-haters to troll in this way. If not: I think it would make more sense to call out specifics rather than making general statements, which only offer a sympathy-reaction (or the opposite). Racism is a structural problem and a lot of people in this world carry this form of insanity. That sucks and it needs to change. It helps if specific stuff is called-out, because there are also many people who hate this idiocy. Also, chess makes no sense at all. "Contributions" to the chess world are lichess.org and people like Tal and Capablanca and maybe so people who dig up interesting history. Other than that, it is a game that makes us waste our time in a nice way, but nothing more. Taking out the garbage, doing the dishes, planting a tree, raising a child - all of this is way more contribution than chess could ever be. * Especially since the current level of chess engines and opening theory chips away at the foundation of the already senseless game and makes it even more senseless. Just see the average comments on GM games, where people react solely to - and repeat - engine valuations as their "opinion". Chess is still nice, but I see you're already a lichess contributor, so you're one of the few who do something good.

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