cheating detection

occasionally I got cheated, I reported the cheater, and many of them got banned.

But for some weeks now, I report more and more suspicious games, and none of those game lead to a ban.
Yes, I agree, it is sometimes not for sure if someone has cheated, and we all can have excellent games.

I dont expect every report of mine will lead to a ban. But so many players have recently scored against me high accuracies with very low average centi-pawn loss - and none of those reported games resulted in a ban.

Isnt cheat detection meanwhile half-automated? A few months ago, it often only took seconds for a cheater to get banned after I reported him.

I wonder - anyone else experience that more and more games have too excellent play? The less cheaters get detected, the less they get banned, the more auditiously they start cheating. I am not singeling out anyone, just wonder if the administration or automatic cheat detection is "under water"?

ah, and casual games - is cheating allowed here?

at least we arent on chess.c*m...

@SukhoiSu35 said in #2:

chess.cm...
Did you really make chess com a curse, like 'sht'? lol

ah, and casual games - is cheating allowed here?
No. Please refer to https://lichess.org/page/fair-play for more information.

@Munich "high accuracies with very low average centi-pawn loss" are not good metrics as for accuracy its really easy to get a good score and for centipawn just play a long game and it will be low or short.

But the main thing is:
RBM

Report
block
move on

Only a fool worries about what he can't control.

YACP sigh Okay @Munich , lets see what we've got here...

I checked your latest 25 rapig games with high accuracy (for example 94% or higher) - this is what I found:

You won (94% accuracy, 0 errors, 0 blunders):

Draw (both players with 94% accuracy)

You Won (97% accuracy, 0 errors, 0 blunders)

So, 3 out of 25 matches with no errors/blunders on your side and also ZERO wins for your opponents with a 94% (or higher) accuracy.

Am I wrong, or are YOU the one that should be accused of cheating (according to your metrics), banned and blocked?
Of course no, but neither are your opponents.

This is now the time for your "NO, YOU ARE WRONG! - FOR ME IT's A DIFFERENT STORY"-reply, as always in those threads...

Good luck on your lifelong chess journey!

I dont know how you filtered, but in my last 25 rapid games I lost 6 games and drew 4 and won 15. Zero wins for my opponents? maybe you filltered wrong. nvm. My question isnt about me or any specific opponent, but I think that a few weeks or months ago, many of my reports resulted in a ban, and quite quickly.
But meanwhile none of my reports result in a ban, even though I am very sure it was a cheat (very obvious, PM me for an example).

So I wonder if that is just temporary, or if others noticed, too, that previous reports resulted in more bans, indicating the check detection is "under water". I thought many games are checked automatically?

And is it allowed to cheat in casual games? (useful to know for me, because then I dont need to bother starting a report if I get cheated in a casual game).

It is not unusual, that it takes a long time for someone to get banned. So complaining publicly won't help you. I have not looked at your games, but even if there are games where your opponent has obviously(!) cheated, it won't be enough. But if they continue to cheat on a time scale of months, there is a good chance that they will be banned.

I don't have the feeling that the time frame for bans has significantly changed recently, but maybe some new cheating script, that helps them stay under some thresholds is out there. Who knows...

Anyway, I guess that false positives for Lichess' Cheat-Detection are are very close to zero. Maybe that's something you can find solace in.

@for_cryingout_loud said in #5:

But the main thing is:
RBM

Report
block
move on

Only a fool worries about what he can't control.

Yes, I agree.

but none of the reports result in a ban. Ofc, my opponents can have a game. But some time ago, every 2nd or 3rd report resulted in a ban, whereas none of my more recent reports. First I thought, ok, probably none of them cheated. But after a while, I wonder that none of my reports resulted in any bans.

Really none of them? or still in a queue as cheating detection is maybe "under water"?
My point is: is cheating detection "under water"? My games might still be in the queue and bans might happen later.

Also I wonder: are casual games worth reporting or is it allowed to cheat in casual games?

just the last sentence of me now of interest: are casual games checked if reported?

Otherwise, 1 of my reports had success, so I guess cheat detection works or works again. Who knows, maybe this thread helped and some admin looked at it. so, yea, reports seem to be in the queue. I am not expecting all my reports will result in a ban. We all can have good games. I was just wondering none of my reports resulted in a ban, but as of today - yes, they result in bans (again).