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I have played over 2500 games, and I may have accidentally abandoned maybe 5-7 games.

@Molurus said in #30:

There is nothing wrong with losing on the clock, especially not in blitz. The problem is with letting your clock run instead of resigning.

I'm sure you know what the difference is. The fact that you pretend that you don't makes me really suspicious of anything you're saying here.

And if you happen to get a phone call during a game that you simply cannot resist answering, just resign the game before you do. It's a one second effort, and it will definitely prevent you being banned in the end. (Although I really don't believe this is about phone calls. As already pointed out, there is no way that you get all your phone calls in losing positions.)

You know what, fine.

No matter how I state my case in a diplomatic way, you simply intensify the accusation. So I’m wasting my time. .

The only thing I can say you is have a great day.

@Molurus said in #30: > There is nothing wrong with losing on the clock, especially not in blitz. The problem is with letting your clock run instead of resigning. > > I'm sure you know what the difference is. The fact that you pretend that you don't makes me really suspicious of anything you're saying here. > > And if you happen to get a phone call during a game that you simply cannot resist answering, just resign the game before you do. It's a one second effort, and it will definitely prevent you being banned in the end. (Although I really don't believe this is about phone calls. As already pointed out, there is no way that you get all your phone calls in losing positions.) You know what, fine. No matter how I state my case in a diplomatic way, you simply intensify the accusation. So I’m wasting my time. . The only thing I can say you is have a great day.

@Cypherish said in #28:

The system is on to me? What hell are you talking about ? You are delusional, seriously.

I don’t play chess to try to dupe or disregard the rules or laws of chess,. That is not my practice and never will be.

So what you stated is wrong and slanderous.
I'd appreciate if you watch what you're saying. You stated the following:
@Cypherish said in #1:
I got a message today from Lichess saying that I have several games that I have abandoned, and that if it continues to happen my account might get terminated.
The system is clearly onto you. Quit being in denial

@Cypherish said in #28: > The system is on to me? What hell are you talking about ? You are delusional, seriously. > > I don’t play chess to try to dupe or disregard the rules or laws of chess,. That is not my practice and never will be. > > So what you stated is wrong and slanderous. I'd appreciate if you watch what you're saying. You stated the following: @Cypherish said in #1: > I got a message today from Lichess saying that I have several games that I have abandoned, and that if it continues to happen my account might get terminated. The system is clearly onto you. Quit being in denial

@Cypherish said in #27:

Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz.....

Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games.

If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts,
isn’t that fair play?

I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess.
So you seem to know the source of the problem. If you want to play blitz, learn the ways of blitz. If you are low, premove blindly. It isn't chess, but that's the way of blitz. Any strong player will tell you rapid, classical is better to learn, but if you must play blitz then be ready to fall in time scrambles where you need to pre-move blindly without any understanding. Often. 'blitz' becomes 'bullet'.

@Cypherish said in #27: > Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz..... > > Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games. > > If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts, > isn’t that fair play? > > I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess. So you seem to know the source of the problem. If you want to play blitz, learn the ways of blitz. If you are low, premove blindly. It isn't chess, but that's the way of blitz. Any strong player will tell you rapid, classical is better to learn, but if you must play blitz then be ready to fall in time scrambles where you need to pre-move blindly without any understanding. Often. 'blitz' becomes 'bullet'.

@SD_2709 said in #33:

So you seem to know the source of the problem. If you want to play blitz, learn the ways of blitz. If you are low, premove blindly.

This is terrible advice and does not address Ops concern. Blitz should be viewed as a training tool, the result DOES NOT MATTER. What matters is that OP finds the best move if they want to get better at chess. Furthermore OP should not be penalised if they take a long time to find a good move in a chess position.

Players need to understand that the only reason to have a higher rating is to play stronger opponents. There are no other rewards in the online environment.

In real OTB chess it matters in classical games how fast you play because status and money are involved. In the online environment you should play to get better at classical OTB chess.

@SD_2709 said in #33: > So you seem to know the source of the problem. If you want to play blitz, learn the ways of blitz. If you are low, premove blindly. This is terrible advice and does not address Ops concern. Blitz should be viewed as a training tool, the result DOES NOT MATTER. What matters is that OP finds the best move if they want to get better at chess. Furthermore OP should not be penalised if they take a long time to find a good move in a chess position. Players need to understand that the only reason to have a higher rating is to play stronger opponents. There are no other rewards in the online environment. In real OTB chess it matters in classical games how fast you play because status and money are involved. In the online environment you should play to get better at classical OTB chess.

@Firegoat7 said in #34:

This is terrible advice and does not address Ops concern. Blitz should be viewed as a training tool, the result DOES NOT MATTER. What matters is that OP finds the best move if they want to get better at chess. Furthermore OP should not be penalised if they take a long time to find a good move in a chess position.

Players need to understand that the only reason to have a higher rating is to play stronger opponents. There are no other rewards in the online environment.

In real OTB chess it matters in classical games how fast you play because status and money are involved. In the online environment you should play to get better at classical OTB chess.
Ok but if you were running out of time anyway then you should probably either resign or resort to the 'lucky' bullet chess. It's all well to keep trying to find a good move, but there is also realism that if you couldn't find a good move in 2 min, you probably won't find it in this last millisecond. That's why people encourage to play classical/rapid anyway, but in a time scramble, just sitting idly will sometimes result in getting warnings. In a longer time control, generally your opponent will do the same and it won't result in a flag, which is why this issue is a lot less significant. Now maybe the OP was warned for others reasons (like stalling), but I will give him the benefit of doubt that he was actually taking the time to think. If he wasn't then all of this is pointless anyway, because lichess enforced this to stop stallers which I agree with. We can't call it a 'false positive' if it isn't really a 'false positive'.

@Firegoat7 said in #34: > This is terrible advice and does not address Ops concern. Blitz should be viewed as a training tool, the result DOES NOT MATTER. What matters is that OP finds the best move if they want to get better at chess. Furthermore OP should not be penalised if they take a long time to find a good move in a chess position. > > Players need to understand that the only reason to have a higher rating is to play stronger opponents. There are no other rewards in the online environment. > > In real OTB chess it matters in classical games how fast you play because status and money are involved. In the online environment you should play to get better at classical OTB chess. Ok but if you were running out of time anyway then you should probably either resign or resort to the 'lucky' bullet chess. It's all well to keep trying to find a good move, but there is also realism that if you couldn't find a good move in 2 min, you probably won't find it in this last millisecond. That's why people encourage to play classical/rapid anyway, but in a time scramble, just sitting idly will sometimes result in getting warnings. In a longer time control, generally your opponent will do the same and it won't result in a flag, which is why this issue is a lot less significant. Now maybe the OP was warned for others reasons (like stalling), but I will give him the benefit of doubt that he was actually taking the time to think. If he wasn't then all of this is pointless anyway, because lichess enforced this to stop stallers which I agree with. We can't call it a 'false positive' if it isn't really a 'false positive'.

I feel that in blitz games, the occasionally loss on time can happen, and the occasional loss because you are thinking and you didn't realize that your position is absolutely horrible.Although, Im not one to speak, as I have defiantly made this mistake (forgive my spelling).If you are having problems with time, I suggest that you work you way down to 10+0, then maybe custom games with bots to help control your time.It is a courtesy to others.It is incredibly annoying when someone has 5 minutes left on the clock in a rapid game and refuses to resign even though their position is dead lost.If you can't tell that you position is dead lost, then something is wrong as you have a decent rating and are relatively good at chess, Cypherish.Even if you are one of those people that refuse to resign, there is no point fighting in a dead lost position, unless your opponent is several hundred points lower rated than you.I would suggest just conforming to the rules and trying to work your way around it.I have to go for many things but I resign and know that it only takes one game to bring my rating back up.I think that you should conform to the rules or else lichens will ban you.

I feel that in blitz games, the occasionally loss on time can happen, and the occasional loss because you are thinking and you didn't realize that your position is absolutely horrible.Although, Im not one to speak, as I have defiantly made this mistake (forgive my spelling).If you are having problems with time, I suggest that you work you way down to 10+0, then maybe custom games with bots to help control your time.It is a courtesy to others.It is incredibly annoying when someone has 5 minutes left on the clock in a rapid game and refuses to resign even though their position is dead lost.If you can't tell that you position is dead lost, then something is wrong as you have a decent rating and are relatively good at chess, Cypherish.Even if you are one of those people that refuse to resign, there is no point fighting in a dead lost position, unless your opponent is several hundred points lower rated than you.I would suggest just conforming to the rules and trying to work your way around it.I have to go for many things but I resign and know that it only takes one game to bring my rating back up.I think that you should conform to the rules or else lichens will ban you.

@Cypherish said in #31:

You know what, fine.

No matter how I state my case in a diplomatic way, you simply intensify the accusation. So I’m wasting my time. .

The only thing I can say you is have a great day.

You're just making a big fool of yourself. Closing your account was probably inevitable.

@Cypherish said in #31: > You know what, fine. > > No matter how I state my case in a diplomatic way, you simply intensify the accusation. So I’m wasting my time. . > > The only thing I can say you is have a great day. You're just making a big fool of yourself. Closing your account was probably inevitable.

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