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I have played over 2500 games, and I may have accidentally abandoned maybe 5-7 games.

I got a message today from Lichess saying that I have several games that I have abandoned, and that if it continues to happen my account might get terminated.

Does anyone know math on this site?

The games that I abandoned where due to phone calls or my phone dying out, and considering the amount can be counted on both hands ( or at the maximum no more than 20.)

That’s less than 1 percent!

That means I play 99 percent of my games with no disconnects or abandonment.

Let’s say it was 20, that’s still less than 1 percent.

So why would I receive such a message when I play fairly, and I can’t control all circumstances when it comes to an internet connection or a wireless connection.

You think Lichess would understand that and have some type of percentage or math in place to govern the rule.....

As much as I like this site more than chess.com, I never received such a message from them and I had a similar connection percentage .

People are going to have connection issues. Now if someone is disconnecting several times a day or several times a week, where their completion percentage is poor, then that’s different....

Now if I get some type of drop or disconnect this week Or next week, will my account of over 2500 games be removed?

I got a message today from Lichess saying that I have several games that I have abandoned, and that if it continues to happen my account might get terminated. Does anyone know math on this site? The games that I abandoned where due to phone calls or my phone dying out, and considering the amount can be counted on both hands ( or at the maximum no more than 20.) That’s less than 1 percent! That means I play 99 percent of my games with no disconnects or abandonment. Let’s say it was 20, that’s still less than 1 percent. So why would I receive such a message when I play fairly, and I can’t control all circumstances when it comes to an internet connection or a wireless connection. You think Lichess would understand that and have some type of percentage or math in place to govern the rule..... As much as I like this site more than chess.com, I never received such a message from them and I had a similar connection percentage . People are going to have connection issues. Now if someone is disconnecting several times a day or several times a week, where their completion percentage is poor, then that’s different.... Now if I get some type of drop or disconnect this week Or next week, will my account of over 2500 games be removed?

You seem to have a habit of letting your clock run out. Just counting the last week that's more than 5-7 times.

That said.. receiving a phone call during a game is a very, very poor excuse to abandon a game.

You seem to have a habit of letting your clock run out. Just counting the last week that's more than 5-7 times. That said.. receiving a phone call during a game is a very, very poor excuse to abandon a game.

Yes and not only, it's not just leaving games, it's more like stalling and letting the clock run out when you are lost in the position. That's unsportsmanlike and it's against Lichess rules, as you might have understood by now.

Yes and not only, it's not just leaving games, it's more like stalling and letting the clock run out when you are lost in the position. That's unsportsmanlike and it's against Lichess rules, as you might have understood by now.

@Deadban said in #3:

Yes and not only, it's not just leaving games, it's more like stalling and letting the clock run out when you are lost in the position. That's unsportsmanlike and it's against Lichess rules, as you might have understood by now.

Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect.
Plus the majority of my games played this week have been Blitz.

I’m not sure what you guys consider to be abandonment or a losing position. But if I’m losing with no chance of recovery, then I resign.

You guys just automatically conclude that someone is intentionally abandoning games

Also if someone steps away or even shrinks their app for a couple of minutes, your system kicks them off the server and labels it as abandonment.

So we agree to disagree here.

@Deadban said in #3: > Yes and not only, it's not just leaving games, it's more like stalling and letting the clock run out when you are lost in the position. That's unsportsmanlike and it's against Lichess rules, as you might have understood by now. Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect. Plus the majority of my games played this week have been Blitz. I’m not sure what you guys consider to be abandonment or a losing position. But if I’m losing with no chance of recovery, then I resign. You guys just automatically conclude that someone is intentionally abandoning games Also if someone steps away or even shrinks their app for a couple of minutes, your system kicks them off the server and labels it as abandonment. So we agree to disagree here.

@Cypherish said in #4:

If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect.

The Lichess resign button need to be pressed twice, unless you change it in the settings.

@Cypherish said in #4: > If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect. The Lichess resign button need to be pressed twice, unless you change it in the settings.

@Cypherish said in #4:

Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect.

I suggest you look at your game history again. It's full of games where you let your time run out instead of resigning.

Btw, Lichess detects this fully automatically. So if you are getting warnings your assessment is wrong by definition.

@Cypherish said in #4: > Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect. I suggest you look at your game history again. It's full of games where you let your time run out instead of resigning. Btw, Lichess detects this fully automatically. So if you are getting warnings your assessment is wrong by definition.

Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect.

I mean, you have two different people plus Lichess telling you that what you're doing is wrong and forbidden and will have consequences if you don't stop...

I’m not sure what you guys consider to be abandonment or a losing position. But if I’m losing with no chance of recovery, then I resign.

I don't know if you realize that all your games are public and everyone has access to them at any time. You're just in denial.
There are so many examples, but let's just share the most recent one, 19 hours ago.

https://lichess.org/4BQv0hgp#58

Stalling for 70 seconds in a 5 mins game when you are completely lost.

> Bullcrap. You better go look at my games again..If I’m losing, I resign....Your assessment is incorrect. I mean, you have two different people plus Lichess telling you that what you're doing is wrong and forbidden and will have consequences if you don't stop... > I’m not sure what you guys consider to be abandonment or a losing position. But if I’m losing with no chance of recovery, then I resign. I don't know if you realize that all your games are public and everyone has access to them at any time. You're just in denial. There are so many examples, but let's just share the most recent one, 19 hours ago. https://lichess.org/4BQv0hgp#58 Stalling for 70 seconds in a 5 mins game when you are completely lost.

@Deadban said in #7:

I mean, you have two different people plus Lichess telling you that what you're doing is wrong and forbidden and will have consequences if you don't stop...

I don't know if you realize that all your games are public and everyone has access to them at any time. You're just in denial.
There are so many examples, but let's just share the most recent one, 19 hours ago.

70 seconds? How do you know that’s not from someone putting the phone down , or going to look at something . That was from a blitz game. That occurred at 8:47pm. No telling what happened at that time.

You have to be kidding me.

I have played over 2500 games and I play fair and with great sportsmanship in all of my games.

So we agree to disagree

And yes I know my games are available to the public and I have not a single thing to hide.....that’s why I made the post in the first place.

@Deadban said in #7: > I mean, you have two different people plus Lichess telling you that what you're doing is wrong and forbidden and will have consequences if you don't stop... > > > I don't know if you realize that all your games are public and everyone has access to them at any time. You're just in denial. > There are so many examples, but let's just share the most recent one, 19 hours ago. 70 seconds? How do you know that’s not from someone putting the phone down , or going to look at something . That was from a blitz game. That occurred at 8:47pm. No telling what happened at that time. You have to be kidding me. I have played over 2500 games and I play fair and with great sportsmanship in all of my games. So we agree to disagree And yes I know my games are available to the public and I have not a single thing to hide.....that’s why I made the post in the first place.

"Hello. Can't talk right now. I'll call you back OK?"

"Hello. Can't talk right now. I'll call you back OK?"

70 seconds? How do you know that’s not from someone putting the phone down , or going to look at something . That was from a blitz game. That occurred at 8:47pm. No telling what happened at that time.

You don't seem to understand, because you don't want to understand, that whatever happens is always on you, it's not Lichess responsibility and clearly it's not your opponent's responsibility. When you join a game you are committed to finishing that game in one way or another, leaving is not an option. Stalling the clock and having your opponent wait for nothing isn't either.
Anything can happen at any time okay, but you don't get banned or receive a warning for a one time occurrence, rather you do if Lichess detects a pattern or recurring behavior.

And just because you like to ridicule yourself:

https://lichess.org/CqIu8ufF/black#79

Stalling almost 3 minutes in a rapid game when your opponent has forced checkmate.

> 70 seconds? How do you know that’s not from someone putting the phone down , or going to look at something . That was from a blitz game. That occurred at 8:47pm. No telling what happened at that time. You don't seem to understand, because you don't **want** to understand, that whatever happens is always on you, it's not Lichess responsibility and clearly it's not your opponent's responsibility. When you join a game you are committed to finishing that game in one way or another, leaving is not an option. Stalling the clock and having your opponent wait for nothing isn't either. Anything can happen at any time okay, but you don't get banned or receive a warning for a one time occurrence, rather you do if Lichess detects a pattern or recurring behavior. And just because you like to ridicule yourself: https://lichess.org/CqIu8ufF/black#79 Stalling almost 3 minutes in a rapid game when your opponent has forced checkmate.

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