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I have played over 2500 games, and I may have accidentally abandoned maybe 5-7 games.

@Molurus said in #15:

You are letting your clock run for over 20% of your total time in a dead lost position. Yeah, that's an issue. And it definitely should be an issue.

It really doesn't matter if you fell asleep or if the pope called you. You're not allowed to do this. You seem to be thinking that you could, potentially, have a good reason for it. No, you couldn't.

And this is just one example, your game history is full of games like this one. I even saw one game where you let your clock run for 14 minutes in a 15 minute game.

I’m sure you have common sense . I’m sure you’re an intelligent person, and know the difference between
someone intentionally letting a clock run out and someone being interrupted for whatever reason. There is a difference, and that difference should be acknowledged. But it appears this site simply pools all time outs under the same definition.

I have played over 2500 games. Now take the games that you define as timeouts, and divide them by those 2500 games, and I would still have 95+ percent games completed .

What I’m saying to you is your rule isn’t a fair rule, and that the rule is extremely rigid. It’s only open for one interpretation.

@Molurus said in #15: > You are letting your clock run for over 20% of your total time in a dead lost position. Yeah, that's an issue. And it definitely should be an issue. > > It really doesn't matter if you fell asleep or if the pope called you. You're not allowed to do this. You seem to be thinking that you could, potentially, have a good reason for it. No, you couldn't. > > And this is just one example, your game history is full of games like this one. I even saw one game where you let your clock run for 14 minutes in a 15 minute game. I’m sure you have common sense . I’m sure you’re an intelligent person, and know the difference between someone intentionally letting a clock run out and someone being interrupted for whatever reason. There is a difference, and that difference should be acknowledged. But it appears this site simply pools all time outs under the same definition. I have played over 2500 games. Now take the games that you define as timeouts, and divide them by those 2500 games, and I would still have 95+ percent games completed . What I’m saying to you is your rule isn’t a fair rule, and that the rule is extremely rigid. It’s only open for one interpretation.

for some reason you only get calls when you are in losing positions

for some reason you only get calls when you are in losing positions

@Cypherish said in #21:

I’m sure you have common sense . I’m sure you’re an intelligent person, and know the difference between
someone intentionally letting a clock run out and someone being interrupted for whatever reason. There is a difference, and that difference should be acknowledged.

No it shouldn't. It's completely irrelevant.

That said: I don't believe for one second you are not doing this on purpose. Like Sakis above me says: you seem to only get calls when you are losing. That's statistically extremely unlikely, even impossible.

What I’m saying to you is your rule isn’t a fair rule, and that the rule is extremely rigid. It’s only open for one interpretation.

That's exactly what makes it a fair rule. We don't even need to discuss whether or not you have a good reason to abandon a game. By definition you don't, ever.

Sure there are cases where you, for whatever reason, cannot avoid abandoning a game. Everyone has that. But no one has this on a regular basis like you do. Which means the problem is with you, not with the rule.

@Cypherish said in #21: > I’m sure you have common sense . I’m sure you’re an intelligent person, and know the difference between > someone intentionally letting a clock run out and someone being interrupted for whatever reason. There is a difference, and that difference should be acknowledged. No it shouldn't. It's completely irrelevant. That said: I don't believe for one second you are not doing this on purpose. Like Sakis above me says: you seem to only get calls when you are losing. That's statistically extremely unlikely, even impossible. > What I’m saying to you is your rule isn’t a fair rule, and that the rule is extremely rigid. It’s only open for one interpretation. That's exactly what makes it a fair rule. We don't even need to discuss whether or not you have a good reason to abandon a game. By definition you don't, ever. Sure there are cases where you, for whatever reason, cannot avoid abandoning a game. Everyone has that. But no one has this on a regular basis like you do. Which means the problem is with you, not with the rule.

@Cypherish from your recent game history: (losses)

8 hours ago: Stalled
9 hours ago: Stalled
9 hours ago: Resigned
9 hours ago: Resigned
9 hours ago: Resigned

Stalled 2/5 games. You seem to stall about 20% of your games, and that is being generous. To give you the benefit of doubt, even if you aren't stalling intently, the reason doesn't matter. If you have to go for an emergency and it is a long one, better resign anyway.

@Cypherish from your recent game history: (losses) 8 hours ago: Stalled 9 hours ago: Stalled 9 hours ago: Resigned 9 hours ago: Resigned 9 hours ago: Resigned Stalled 2/5 games. You seem to stall about 20% of your games, and that is being generous. To give you the benefit of doubt, even if you aren't stalling intently, the reason doesn't matter. If you have to go for an emergency and it is a long one, better resign anyway.

@SD_2709 said in #24:

@Cypherish from your recent game history: (losses)

8 hours ago: Stalled
9 hours ago: Stalled
9 hours ago: Resigned
9 hours ago: Resigned
9 hours ago: Resigned

Stalled 2/5 games. You seem to stall about 20% of your games, and that is being generous. To give you the benefit of doubt, even if you aren't stalling intently, the reason doesn't matter. If you have to go for an emergency and it is a long one, better resign anyway.

THOSE WERE NOT STALLED GAMES.

There is a misunderstanding here. Those were blitz games, and the majority of blitz games end on timeouts. You’re confusing running out of time because of taking too long to decide to move with stalling.

You said 8 hours ago I stalled in a match. My opponent had 25 seconds left and I timed out because of trying to figure out where to move, not stalling. I have even seen GMs take 1 minute or more to move in a blitz game because they couldn’t figure out where to move.

I just recently started playing blitz games , when I usually play rapid, where I never got such a warning....

I’ve played against people in 5/3 blitz games where they took more than 2 minutes to move, and I never thought they were stalling. They simply just didn’t know where to move, or we’re trying to figure out their next move.

If takes a person 10/15 seconds to move in a blitz game they are going to get down on time compared to their opponent if their opponent is moving faster.

How many minutes is a person allowed to not make a move before it is considered stalling, especially in a blitz game of 3/2 or 5/3?

If I play a 5/3 blitz game, and if it takes me a minute or so to make a move to get out of a losing position or
to put my opponent in a losing position, is that stalling?

If I have a 5 min clock, and if it takes 2 mins within that 5 min clock to conceptualize a certain move or strategy is that stalling?

I can go on YouTube and show you GMs like Nakamura
losing out on time by 60 seconds or more in a blitz game because they were stumped on where to move.

Hell, I would even invite you to sit in on my games so you cons see my pattern of movements in those games to prove to you that there is no ill intent here.

So no I don’t stall in 20 percent of my games. I’m simply figuring out moves or where to move.

But hey you’re going to believe whatever you want to believe. I stated my case.

@SD_2709 said in #24: > @Cypherish from your recent game history: (losses) > > 8 hours ago: Stalled > 9 hours ago: Stalled > 9 hours ago: Resigned > 9 hours ago: Resigned > 9 hours ago: Resigned > > Stalled 2/5 games. You seem to stall about 20% of your games, and that is being generous. To give you the benefit of doubt, even if you aren't stalling intently, the reason doesn't matter. If you have to go for an emergency and it is a long one, better resign anyway. THOSE WERE NOT STALLED GAMES. There is a misunderstanding here. Those were blitz games, and the majority of blitz games end on timeouts. You’re confusing running out of time because of taking too long to decide to move with stalling. You said 8 hours ago I stalled in a match. My opponent had 25 seconds left and I timed out because of trying to figure out where to move, not stalling. I have even seen GMs take 1 minute or more to move in a blitz game because they couldn’t figure out where to move. I just recently started playing blitz games , when I usually play rapid, where I never got such a warning.... I’ve played against people in 5/3 blitz games where they took more than 2 minutes to move, and I never thought they were stalling. They simply just didn’t know where to move, or we’re trying to figure out their next move. If takes a person 10/15 seconds to move in a blitz game they are going to get down on time compared to their opponent if their opponent is moving faster. How many minutes is a person allowed to not make a move before it is considered stalling, especially in a blitz game of 3/2 or 5/3? If I play a 5/3 blitz game, and if it takes me a minute or so to make a move to get out of a losing position or to put my opponent in a losing position, is that stalling? If I have a 5 min clock, and if it takes 2 mins within that 5 min clock to conceptualize a certain move or strategy is that stalling? I can go on YouTube and show you GMs like Nakamura losing out on time by 60 seconds or more in a blitz game because they were stumped on where to move. Hell, I would even invite you to sit in on my games so you cons see my pattern of movements in those games to prove to you that there is no ill intent here. So no I don’t stall in 20 percent of my games. I’m simply figuring out moves or where to move. But hey you’re going to believe whatever you want to believe. I stated my case.

Spare the excuses. The system is onto you and people are trying to show you the ways to avoid getting sanctioned.

Polemicizing is futile

Spare the excuses. The system is onto you and people are trying to show you the ways to avoid getting sanctioned. Polemicizing is futile

Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz.....

Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games.

If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts,
isn’t that fair play?

I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess.

Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz..... Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games. If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts, isn’t that fair play? I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess.

@Zeoblade said in #26:

Spare the excuses. The system is onto you and people are trying to show you the ways to avoid getting sanctioned.

Polemicizing is futile

The system is on to me? What hell are you talking about ? You are delusional, seriously.

I don’t play chess to try to dupe or disregard the rules or laws of chess,. That is not my practice and never will be.

So what you stated is wrong and slanderous.

@Zeoblade said in #26: > Spare the excuses. The system is onto you and people are trying to show you the ways to avoid getting sanctioned. > > Polemicizing is futile The system is on to me? What hell are you talking about ? You are delusional, seriously. I don’t play chess to try to dupe or disregard the rules or laws of chess,. That is not my practice and never will be. So what you stated is wrong and slanderous.

@Cypherish your probably just really slow and don’t even know it.

@Cypherish your probably just really slow and don’t even know it.

@Cypherish said in #27:

Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz.....

Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games.

If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts,
isn’t that fair play?

I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess.

There is nothing wrong with losing on the clock, especially not in blitz. The problem is with letting your clock run instead of resigning.

I'm sure you know what the difference is. The fact that you pretend that you don't makes me really suspicious of anything you're saying here.

And if you happen to get a phone call during a game that you simply cannot resist answering, just resign the game before you do. It's a one second effort, and it will definitely prevent you being banned in the end. (Although I really don't believe this is about phone calls. As already pointed out, there is no way that you get all your phone calls in losing positions.)

@Cypherish said in #27: > Also, I’ve been a member since August 2021, and there has never been an issue up until now. But like I said I just recently started playing blitz games, and in those games either I win on timeouts or lose on timeouts, because that is the nature of blitz..... > > Matter of fact go look at my blitz wins and my opponents are timing out in the same nature...or taking similar amount time to move within those games. > > If I’m winning and losing games on similar timeouts, > isn’t that fair play? > > I’m just to trying get an understanding of everything to ensure I play within the rules ....because up until now I felt I always played within the rules of lichess. There is nothing wrong with losing on the clock, especially not in blitz. The problem is with letting your clock run instead of resigning. I'm sure you know what the difference is. The fact that you pretend that you don't makes me really suspicious of anything you're saying here. And if you happen to get a phone call during a game that you simply cannot resist answering, just resign the game before you do. It's a one second effort, and it will definitely prevent you being banned in the end. (Although I really don't believe this is about phone calls. As already pointed out, there is no way that you get all your phone calls in losing positions.)

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