germans are very very cold analystics.

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Botvinnik, Bronstein, Tal, Stein, Korchnoi, Kasparov, Gelfand... all Jewish. The Russian dominance of chess is largely built on them.

Because germans spend more time in the Lichess-forum instead of improving their chessskills. (I'm german btw. ... and Sarg0n too)

Germany won the 8th Chess Olympiad at Buenos Aires 1939, but all five team members decided to stay in Argentinia and not return to Germany. Eliskases was Jewish.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Chess_Olympiad

@Neustart "they chased the jews" is offending and wrong. It were nationalists and fascists.

My understanding is that the German state or "German Reich" was the constitutional name for the German nation state that existed in 1940 and that they were in fact expelling, imprisoning and generally not being very friendly to Jewish people at the time - their own people. That is commonly accepted as historical fact in the majority of the free world. So as offensive as it may be, I don't think the comment by @tpr was out of line.

We are all adults here and we are aware that times have changed and that the real criminals were not the German people per se but those who held political power. Unfortunately it's a bit tedious to qualify all of that everytime one wishes to refer to the actions of the German nation state of that era - so most people will simply say "Germany" or "Germans". I don't think anyone means any offense by it.

@clutchnutz

People think they do one thing and they do something else. I agree it is often meant no offense. The problem is not looking at what was going on and how to prevent repetitions of any kind. There were really a mass of germans who died in the resistance. That doesn't dimish any crime. But making them to criminals by simplifying is, to say it cautiously, not gentlemanlike.

Of course no offense was meant, just stating that the historic events prior to 1939 led to a brain drain regarding to chess.
The German father of Fischer was also one of those.
Tarrasch was forbidden to go to his chess club.
The German Jew Lasker, who had held the World Championship title, fled to the USA and was later hired by the Soviet Union as a coach to train the new generation of chess players that was to dominate the chess world post Wold War II.
Historical events prior to 1939 still have repercussions today. The players are other of course, but the chess culture got lost.

Yes, it was a fucked up time for sure. My heartfelt respect to those who resisted that bullshit. ❤️

@tpr Since when is Kasparov Jewish?

Kasparov is a hybrid i.e. „mixed“ parents. Guess who is Harry Weinstein? @KnifeF5Master If you don’t know now you know.