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germans are very very cold analystics.

above list (and post also) is shameless propaganda bullshit aimed for youngsters 5 seconds look " O, I see long list-Wikipedia -so it's true"
and racist - if the only and enough criterion is Nazi Nuremburg Law (even 1/8 1/16 of blood = irrevocable jew)
(the same as orthodox talmudic law )
Blut uber alles -(bood above all) - the only racism promoted not only in Wikipedia without restrictions (if its jewish friendly)....
about earlier players I said in posts # 21 , 26
Most players in list were assimilated by their life and self-identification as Germans, Poles and Russian/Soviets

2 names even in W. own description :

Botwinnik His father forbade the speaking of Yiddish at home, and Mikhail and his older brother Issy attended Soviet schools.[5][6] Mikhail Botvinnik later said, "They asked me sometime: What do you think of yourself by nationality? I answered: Yes, my situation is complex. I am a Jew by blood, Russian by culture, Soviet by upbringing."[7] On his religious views, Botvinnik called himself an atheist.
Strong Communist till death .

But #tpr knows better then Mikhail himself ,he was so good at chess and life because of jewish blood and tradition - why not because of russian culture or Soviet upbrining - because jewish hagada (propaganda )matters not facts ...

Korchnoi was born on 23 March 1931 in Leningrad, USSR, to a Jewish mother and a Polish-Catholic father

40 years live in russian-sowiet atheist culture - have plenty posibilities but didnt defect to other countries , only when chess oficials said they will promote (send to chess tournaments on West)younger chessmen instead of older gms like he broken mentally by R. Fisher- he left CCCP
Same case in others - Soviets GMs - instead of being in ,lets say, 10-30 place in Soviet Union they wanted to be nr 1 player in other countries -
the best/only way was claim to be a jew , same reason as Kenyan runners find islam in arabic Katar or Bahrain .
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Without accusing anyone: Sadly its the way it goes in a society needing differences in perception to use people. This topic is overloaded with antisemitism.

There is a religious definition of jewish: converted to the religion or born by a jewish mother.
The Nazi government decided to declare anyone jewish who had one (!!!) jewish grandparent.
"Jewish" is a social construct too.

Without doubt there is a jewish history. This doesn't make anyone jewish who converts to whatever pov about the world. The only respectful way of handling this is accepting the declaration of the individual about it.

Philosemitics are antisemitics who love jews. (Salcia Landmann) If you expect something special from a jew, because he is a jew, b.e. being a good chessplayer, you are disrespectful to them. If you expect from a german to play like Tarrasch, Lasker, Rittner, Baumbach, ... you disrespect them.

Look at their biographies and have fun replaying their games, and if you are able to, learn a bit from both.
if the names in this list were jew and "the jewish tradition was especially beneficial to chess', "chess fit well with the Jewish tradition and values" -according to filo-jew racists-
so Tarrash and Lasker + others would write their chess books in hebrew or at least in jidish and only later books were translated into german ,
- but -suprise- they wrote in german - ,
same for Russians in this list- they wrote chess books in russian because they thought in their true language about chess so for them it was more chess friendly language so also culture -
unless someone proves me that manuscipts were first in hebrew or jiddish and later translated into german or russian ....

facts are not antisemitic but claims about supremacy of jews because of blood (blut) are racists fore sure
#33 global(ist)666 troll

or you must be young and dont know Soviet Union realities - and lack of undestanding text :

"chess oficials said they will promote (send to chess tournaments on West) ...."
"best /only way was claim to be a jew"

1) In Soviet Union people didnt have passports at home and couldnt freely go abroad to capitalists countries to play =to earn WAY much bigger cash than in S.U.
- thats why "best /only way- (to get out !)- was claim to be a jew" (especially after Helsinki Treaty 1975 more jews or"jews" were allowed to leave Soviet Union)
2) getting new citizenship

of course they neednt get ELO artificially boosted because being 10th-30th in Soviet Union was enough for being nr 1 in most rich countries on West in 70ties , 80 ties
(or at least place in olimpic team , couch of national team position and so on...)
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@der_zwang_des_zuges
I feel like informed Hippies would never drive a VW because I assume they care about the environment.

Also due to other VW controversies such as racist commercial or CEO using Nazi slogans.

I feel like VW is better suited for those who like the brown color so much.

Also, I'm having a difficult imagining Germans smoking weed. They feel like a very tense and uptight folk?
@OzyWho are you joking? there were a LOT of hippies in germany driving VWs. and germany is exporting weed to the netherlands! (ok, not germany, but ilegal producers!)
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