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Is Trump finally going down or do we have to suffer much longer?

#293

@Kusokosla
Your post #279 clearly gives a link to a Fox news article..your attempts to claim anything else are,to put it mildly,pathetic.
As are your attempts to discredit @clousems when he very politely gave you a precis of Economics #1.01.(sub-titled "Budget Management for Dummies").

@Kusokosla Your post #279 clearly gives a link to a Fox news article..your attempts to claim anything else are,to put it mildly,pathetic. As are your attempts to discredit @clousems when he very politely gave you a precis of Economics #1.01.(sub-titled "Budget Management for Dummies").
#294

@bunyip
"17 hours ago
#287

"9 hours ago
#279
LOL, how is that pathetic attempt at impeaching Trump going?"

It is over, he has been impeached...

@bunyip "17 hours ago #287 "9 hours ago #279 LOL, how is that pathetic attempt at impeaching Trump going?" It is over, he has been impeached...
#295

https://lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/is-trump-finally-going-down-or-do-we-have-to-suffer-much-longer-2?page=30#294

ATT: https://lichess.org/@/bunyip

Not impeached until the impeachment articles are presented to the Senate, of course, the partisan attempt by the Democrats to undo the election of 2016 will die there.

https://lichess.org/forum/off-topic-discussion/is-trump-finally-going-down-or-do-we-have-to-suffer-much-longer-2?page=30#294 ATT: https://lichess.org/@/bunyip Not impeached until the impeachment articles are presented to the Senate, of course, the partisan attempt by the Democrats to undo the election of 2016 will die there.
#296

What most people don’t realize is that impeachment simply means the other party has enough voices in the House to try to overturn the results of a previous election. Republicans try to impeach Democrats, and did so with Clinton, and tried to impeach Obama daily, and democrats try to impeach Republicans all the time.

It does NOT mean that anyone is guilty of anything, it does NOT mean anyone is getting removed, or any of that.

Some Liberals were posting on Facebook that Trump is not a president anymore, and celebrating his removal... They are so brainwashed by liberal media, they actually are that stupid, they thought impeachment = removal.

What most people don’t realize is that impeachment simply means the other party has enough voices in the House to try to overturn the results of a previous election. Republicans try to impeach Democrats, and did so with Clinton, and tried to impeach Obama daily, and democrats try to impeach Republicans all the time. It does NOT mean that anyone is guilty of anything, it does NOT mean anyone is getting removed, or any of that. Some Liberals were posting on Facebook that Trump is not a president anymore, and celebrating his removal... They are so brainwashed by liberal media, they actually are that stupid, they thought impeachment = removal.
#297

The New York Times
Dec. 18, 2019

2201
On Wednesday evening, the House of Representatives impeached the president of the United States. A magnificent and terrible machine engineered by the founders, still and silent through almost all of American history, has for only the third time in 231 years shifted into motion, to consider whether Congress must call a president to account for abuse of power.....
......But the nihilism of this moment — the trashing of constitutional safeguards, the scorn for facts, the embrace of corruption, the indifference to historical precedent and to foreign interference in American politics — is due principally to cowardice and opportunism on the part of Republican leaders who have chosen to reject their party’s past standards and positions and instead follow Donald Trump, all the way down.

@solacriptura
Did The NY Times get it wrong?

The New York Times Dec. 18, 2019 2201 On Wednesday evening, the House of Representatives impeached the president of the United States. A magnificent and terrible machine engineered by the founders, still and silent through almost all of American history, has for only the third time in 231 years shifted into motion, to consider whether Congress must call a president to account for abuse of power..... ......But the nihilism of this moment — the trashing of constitutional safeguards, the scorn for facts, the embrace of corruption, the indifference to historical precedent and to foreign interference in American politics — is due principally to cowardice and opportunism on the part of Republican leaders who have chosen to reject their party’s past standards and positions and instead follow Donald Trump, all the way down. @solacriptura Did The NY Times get it wrong?
#298

Economists are people too..we should cherish them.(Well,some of them,anyway.)
@Kusokosla

Economists are people too..we should cherish them.(Well,some of them,anyway.) @Kusokosla
#299

#297

NY Times is the worst liberal garbage and a total joke. Yes, they got wrong just about everything. Always. Why do you read that crap?

One thing that appears to be lost on you: INNOCENT until proven guilty. This is an important principal. You appear to have bought into the false narrative that Trump is guilty thou you haven’t witnessed the trial of any kind. (And of course you will not)

I can get my friends to agree that you’re a rapist and impeach you. Does it mean you are guilty?

#297 NY Times is the worst liberal garbage and a total joke. Yes, they got wrong just about everything. Always. Why do you read that crap? One thing that appears to be lost on you: INNOCENT until proven guilty. This is an important principal. You appear to have bought into the false narrative that Trump is guilty thou you haven’t witnessed the trial of any kind. (And of course you will not) I can get my friends to agree that you’re a rapist and impeach you. Does it mean you are guilty?
#300

@Kusokosla You are referring to the same Ron Paul who has criticized Trump's tariffs as being "far removed from capitalism," no?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/11/ron-paul-fed-cuts-and-china-tariffs-give-socialists-some-credibility.html
Or are you going to accuse Ron Paul of being a member of the liberal media?

@Kusokosla You are referring to the same Ron Paul who has criticized Trump's tariffs as being "far removed from capitalism," no? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/11/ron-paul-fed-cuts-and-china-tariffs-give-socialists-some-credibility.html Or are you going to accuse Ron Paul of being a member of the liberal media?
#301

#300

It’s ok to disagree, and I don’t agree with Trump nor with Ron Paul on everything. Trump operates in a real world thou, Ron Paul operates in an ideal fantasy world to which we as society sadly have not yet matured into.

Take the border Wall as an example. Obviously there should be no wall, BUT there is a welfare State, that is a reality. there should not be a welfare nanny state, but there IS one, so now we MUST have the wall, because many come here illegally FOR that welfare, and they must be prevented from doing so, because that welfare is money stolen from me on tax day. And thus that money better go to services provided to ME, not to illegals.

That is the main difference between Ron Paul and trump, Ron Paul is obviously correct on many issues, but trump is a shark, an arsehole and a ruthless predator, and when negotiating with Communist Dictators you better have a shark predator representing you. Just imagine a soft pathetic loser with no testosterone like Bernie Sanders sitting across the table from Chinese Communist Dictator... What do you think Bernie will get done? Nothing. He has no power, no presence, no strength mentally or emotionally, You need a ruthless capitalist arsehole representing your interests.

#300 It’s ok to disagree, and I don’t agree with Trump nor with Ron Paul on everything. Trump operates in a real world thou, Ron Paul operates in an ideal fantasy world to which we as society sadly have not yet matured into. Take the border Wall as an example. Obviously there should be no wall, BUT there is a welfare State, that is a reality. there should not be a welfare nanny state, but there IS one, so now we MUST have the wall, because many come here illegally FOR that welfare, and they must be prevented from doing so, because that welfare is money stolen from me on tax day. And thus that money better go to services provided to ME, not to illegals. That is the main difference between Ron Paul and trump, Ron Paul is obviously correct on many issues, but trump is a shark, an arsehole and a ruthless predator, and when negotiating with Communist Dictators you better have a shark predator representing you. Just imagine a soft pathetic loser with no testosterone like Bernie Sanders sitting across the table from Chinese Communist Dictator... What do you think Bernie will get done? Nothing. He has no power, no presence, no strength mentally or emotionally, You need a ruthless capitalist arsehole representing your interests.

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