How many cats and dogs did said veteran eat previous to that gesture?
Is he a hero because he got shot? I like ex-Presidents who don't get shot.
Trump didn't cower.
Instead, in a REAL moment of serious danger, he stood up and acted with genuine bravery.
Yet it seems that the response of some in national and social media is ... to try to disparage him and turn attention away from, or at least to ignore, his very real act of bravery.
Why?
Is politics and "being right" so important now that many utterly lose sight of what really happens?
I hope not; but, in any case, I think that many others are getting weary of encountering cheap shots, fear mongering and reputation smearing in politics. I know I am.
Trump's bravery that day should come as no surprise.
After all, he doesn't hide from interviews and press conferences, even when conducted by people who are not throwing softballs and have no special love for him. And when hurricanes trash a region, it's no surprise when we see him show up quickly and bring help.
Do all other politicians follow his example? Or should we quickly change the subject ....
Instead, in a REAL moment of serious danger, he stood up and acted with genuine bravery.
Yet it seems that the response of some in national and social media is ... to try to disparage him and turn attention away from, or at least to ignore, his very real act of bravery.
Why?
Is politics and "being right" so important now that many utterly lose sight of what really happens?
I hope not; but, in any case, I think that many others are getting weary of encountering cheap shots, fear mongering and reputation smearing in politics. I know I am.
Trump's bravery that day should come as no surprise.
After all, he doesn't hide from interviews and press conferences, even when conducted by people who are not throwing softballs and have no special love for him. And when hurricanes trash a region, it's no surprise when we see him show up quickly and bring help.
Do all other politicians follow his example? Or should we quickly change the subject ....
@Noflaps said in #13:
> Instead, in a REAL moment of serious danger, he stood up and acted with genuine bravery.
There's no bravery in being shot. Any coward can get shot. On the other hand creating fake stories about an already marginalised group to vilify them even more is not how a brave person acts. Since his cats and dogs lie, Haitians living in Springfield have faced multiple bomb threats. Speak of fear-mongering.
@Noflaps said in #13:
> And when hurricanes trash a region, it's no surprise when we see him show up quickly and bring help.
When wildfire trash a region however, he won't bring help until he knows said region is controlled by MAGA.
www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-delayed-wildfire-aid-california-1235124062/
> Instead, in a REAL moment of serious danger, he stood up and acted with genuine bravery.
There's no bravery in being shot. Any coward can get shot. On the other hand creating fake stories about an already marginalised group to vilify them even more is not how a brave person acts. Since his cats and dogs lie, Haitians living in Springfield have faced multiple bomb threats. Speak of fear-mongering.
@Noflaps said in #13:
> And when hurricanes trash a region, it's no surprise when we see him show up quickly and bring help.
When wildfire trash a region however, he won't bring help until he knows said region is controlled by MAGA.
www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-delayed-wildfire-aid-california-1235124062/
Uh oh.
TDS
TDS
@KNIGHT_c4 said in #15:
@Noflaps said in #13:
Trump is clearly brave. It should be a given that anyone who s willing to run for president is "brave" in this current media climate.
What he lacks though is a sense of responsibility. I have yet to see him take responsibility for a mistake. We can see this trickle through the whole culture wit conspiracy theorists righf now more willing to believe its possible to control the weather than admit ther prized Tonka truck is helping poison the atmosphere.
@Noflaps said in #13:
Trump is clearly brave. It should be a given that anyone who s willing to run for president is "brave" in this current media climate.
What he lacks though is a sense of responsibility. I have yet to see him take responsibility for a mistake. We can see this trickle through the whole culture wit conspiracy theorists righf now more willing to believe its possible to control the weather than admit ther prized Tonka truck is helping poison the atmosphere.
@KNIGHT_c4 said in #15:
> Uh oh.
> TDS
Oh no facts that don't unquestionably support trump
TDS!! HAHA ORANGE MAN BAD
Yall have a 5 iq bottled response to almost everything? That's why it was so funny when kamala got the nomination - trump hadn't come up with any dumb insults for you to parrot yet
> Uh oh.
> TDS
Oh no facts that don't unquestionably support trump
TDS!! HAHA ORANGE MAN BAD
Yall have a 5 iq bottled response to almost everything? That's why it was so funny when kamala got the nomination - trump hadn't come up with any dumb insults for you to parrot yet
@spidersneedlovetoo said in #16:
> Trump is clearly brave. It should be a given that anyone who s willing to run for president is "brave" in this current media climate.
>
> What he lacks though is a sense of responsibility. I have yet to see him take responsibility for a mistake. We can see this trickle through the whole culture wit conspiracy theorists righf now more willing to believe its possible to control the weather than admit ther prized Tonka truck is helping poison the atmosphere.
He's really just running to avoid prison at this point
> Trump is clearly brave. It should be a given that anyone who s willing to run for president is "brave" in this current media climate.
>
> What he lacks though is a sense of responsibility. I have yet to see him take responsibility for a mistake. We can see this trickle through the whole culture wit conspiracy theorists righf now more willing to believe its possible to control the weather than admit ther prized Tonka truck is helping poison the atmosphere.
He's really just running to avoid prison at this point
@awkward-aardvark says "There's no bravery in being shot. Any coward can get shot.."
True. Any coward CAN get shot. So what? That doesn't really address either the situation or what I said.
Trump didn't just "get shot." He took a bullet through his ear and then IMMEDIATELY stood back up into visibility and raised his fist in defiance.
He didn't hide himself from the gunman the way some candidates hide from unsympathetic interviews or press conferences.
And I find it rather ironic for his opponents to talk about "conspiracy theorists," after Trump was falsely accused (among other things) of being a "Russian asset." Yet it was Trump who stymied Putin's massive pipeline, not his opponents.
Trump has been repeatedly smeared. For YEARS.
I'd say "you know it, and I know it" -- except it's possible that many really DON'T realize it. Why not? Because some in the media (both social and national) scarcely mention, or remain quiet about, any news that might not be politically advantageous. So some people who have a limited variety of news sources really can end up, in good faith, carrying around a very incomplete view of reality.
Fortunately, fewer and fewer people seem to be falling for stale talking points. But there are still some who do. Like the nonsensical idea that Trump is a "threat to democracy." That's the sort of claim people make when they can't really talk about their own records and need to throw red meat to their supporters.
I've seen a Trump basher -- a reasonably intelligent one, no less! -- claim on the internet, as recently as about a year ago, that "the laptop is not real." The person really believed, or at least claimed, that there was NO laptop and that its very physical existence was a "conspiracy theory" spread by Republicans. Amazing.
In other words, the very poster who was convinced that conspiracy theories were coming from the Republicans was, himself, taken in by a conspiracy theory from the Left.
And that's no longer uncommon. I've noticed that many people, often unwittingly, accuse others of precisely what they, themselves, are doing or are at least taken in by. And that's caused the word "projection" to flourish on the internet.
True. Any coward CAN get shot. So what? That doesn't really address either the situation or what I said.
Trump didn't just "get shot." He took a bullet through his ear and then IMMEDIATELY stood back up into visibility and raised his fist in defiance.
He didn't hide himself from the gunman the way some candidates hide from unsympathetic interviews or press conferences.
And I find it rather ironic for his opponents to talk about "conspiracy theorists," after Trump was falsely accused (among other things) of being a "Russian asset." Yet it was Trump who stymied Putin's massive pipeline, not his opponents.
Trump has been repeatedly smeared. For YEARS.
I'd say "you know it, and I know it" -- except it's possible that many really DON'T realize it. Why not? Because some in the media (both social and national) scarcely mention, or remain quiet about, any news that might not be politically advantageous. So some people who have a limited variety of news sources really can end up, in good faith, carrying around a very incomplete view of reality.
Fortunately, fewer and fewer people seem to be falling for stale talking points. But there are still some who do. Like the nonsensical idea that Trump is a "threat to democracy." That's the sort of claim people make when they can't really talk about their own records and need to throw red meat to their supporters.
I've seen a Trump basher -- a reasonably intelligent one, no less! -- claim on the internet, as recently as about a year ago, that "the laptop is not real." The person really believed, or at least claimed, that there was NO laptop and that its very physical existence was a "conspiracy theory" spread by Republicans. Amazing.
In other words, the very poster who was convinced that conspiracy theories were coming from the Republicans was, himself, taken in by a conspiracy theory from the Left.
And that's no longer uncommon. I've noticed that many people, often unwittingly, accuse others of precisely what they, themselves, are doing or are at least taken in by. And that's caused the word "projection" to flourish on the internet.
@Noflaps said in #19:
> after Trump was falsely accused (among other things) of being a "Russian asset."
It's not false accusations. Russian inferences in 2016 elections were proven beyond doubt. Even the Mueller report that you far-right propagandists love to cite as an alleged disculping element in fact acknowledges that there was a widespread systematic Russian involvement to support candidate Trump.
The only way in which it is disculping is that they failed to find evidence that the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian intelligence (they failed to find evidence, which is not the same as finding evidence that it did not happen). But it is beyond doubt that Putin did boost Trump's campaign -- with or without Trump's complicity.
> after Trump was falsely accused (among other things) of being a "Russian asset."
It's not false accusations. Russian inferences in 2016 elections were proven beyond doubt. Even the Mueller report that you far-right propagandists love to cite as an alleged disculping element in fact acknowledges that there was a widespread systematic Russian involvement to support candidate Trump.
The only way in which it is disculping is that they failed to find evidence that the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian intelligence (they failed to find evidence, which is not the same as finding evidence that it did not happen). But it is beyond doubt that Putin did boost Trump's campaign -- with or without Trump's complicity.
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