Gerald Ford and Joe Biden both helped us to realize that airplane boarding stairs must be constructed by Democrats. When using them, Ford fell down and Biden fell ... well, you can complete the sentence yourselves.
@Noflaps said in #36:
> So when you write "And why do you [apparently meaning Noflaps] keep insisting Putin actually WAITED Trump stepped down?" you simply puzzle me.
I think that my answer was perfectly clear,and that you only pretend not to understand what I meant. But for the case it wasn't actually clear, let me rephrase.
There is no indication whatsoever that Putin was like patiently waiting for Trump to leave the White House so that he can finally invade Ukraine. The fact that he did invade AFTER Trump left does not mean he was WAITING for Trump to leave, or that he saw Trump leaving as an opportunity to invade Ukraine. Otherwise, as I already asked you and got no answer for, why would he wait for SO LONG after Trump was gone to invade Ukraine? There is no indication whatsoever that Putin would have NOT invaded Ukraine if Trump had been reelected.
You know what else only happened after Trump left the White House? Vulcano Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai erupted in 2022, the most powerful eruption of the century. Do you suggest that Vulcano Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai also was waiting for Trump to leave office?
As our friend @salmon_rushdie not everything in the world revolves around who's the US president.
> So when you write "And why do you [apparently meaning Noflaps] keep insisting Putin actually WAITED Trump stepped down?" you simply puzzle me.
I think that my answer was perfectly clear,and that you only pretend not to understand what I meant. But for the case it wasn't actually clear, let me rephrase.
There is no indication whatsoever that Putin was like patiently waiting for Trump to leave the White House so that he can finally invade Ukraine. The fact that he did invade AFTER Trump left does not mean he was WAITING for Trump to leave, or that he saw Trump leaving as an opportunity to invade Ukraine. Otherwise, as I already asked you and got no answer for, why would he wait for SO LONG after Trump was gone to invade Ukraine? There is no indication whatsoever that Putin would have NOT invaded Ukraine if Trump had been reelected.
You know what else only happened after Trump left the White House? Vulcano Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai erupted in 2022, the most powerful eruption of the century. Do you suggest that Vulcano Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai also was waiting for Trump to leave office?
As our friend @salmon_rushdie not everything in the world revolves around who's the US president.
@Passionate_Player said in #39:
> is Trump the first ever presidential candidate to survive two attempts to assassinate him?
If we count the joke attempt at West Palm Beach, then Obama has survived MANY assassination attempts, the latest one occurred after Trump published Obama's home adress on the social media.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama
www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/after-trump-posted-what-he-said-was-obamas-address-an-armed-man-was-arrested-there-prosecutors-say
> is Trump the first ever presidential candidate to survive two attempts to assassinate him?
If we count the joke attempt at West Palm Beach, then Obama has survived MANY assassination attempts, the latest one occurred after Trump published Obama's home adress on the social media.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama
www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/after-trump-posted-what-he-said-was-obamas-address-an-armed-man-was-arrested-there-prosecutors-say
What we realize for CERTAIN, @awkward-aardvark , is that Russia didn't invade DURING Trump's term. Trump apparently wasn't viewed as "helpful" for such an invasion (to say the least).
Furthermore, Trump approved sanctions designed to oppose the completion of Nord Stream 2, the Russian pipeline that he reportedly feared (apparently with some real foresight, as Europe later learned) would "tighten Russia's grip over Europe's energy supply."
Knowing that, the notion that Trump is a "Russian asset" is LAUGHABLE.
It amazes me that to this day anybody would STILL believe such a notion. But so many have tried to sell the notion that the stale old talking point is apparently still hanging around.
Do you know when the U.S. lifted sanctions against that Russian pipeline? In 2021. AFTER Trump left office.
So, was it Trump who was helpful to Russia?
Don't believe me about any of this. You can fact check me all day long and I hope you do.
But I won't count on it. It's my experience that most people are so invested emotionally in their own political views that their minds can't be changed, even when faced with obviously strong and contradictory evidence.
Furthermore, Trump approved sanctions designed to oppose the completion of Nord Stream 2, the Russian pipeline that he reportedly feared (apparently with some real foresight, as Europe later learned) would "tighten Russia's grip over Europe's energy supply."
Knowing that, the notion that Trump is a "Russian asset" is LAUGHABLE.
It amazes me that to this day anybody would STILL believe such a notion. But so many have tried to sell the notion that the stale old talking point is apparently still hanging around.
Do you know when the U.S. lifted sanctions against that Russian pipeline? In 2021. AFTER Trump left office.
So, was it Trump who was helpful to Russia?
Don't believe me about any of this. You can fact check me all day long and I hope you do.
But I won't count on it. It's my experience that most people are so invested emotionally in their own political views that their minds can't be changed, even when faced with obviously strong and contradictory evidence.
I see the intolerant extreme left are up to their usual tricks. Experts at talking shite.
I trust you don't me me, @BorisOspasky .
I'm a moderate and the very soul of tolerance. Ask my spaniel.
Of course, you'll have to wait until he wakes up. The old dog sleeps much of the time. I envy him that ability.
I'm a moderate and the very soul of tolerance. Ask my spaniel.
Of course, you'll have to wait until he wakes up. The old dog sleeps much of the time. I envy him that ability.
@Noflaps No.. I don’t mean you.
@Noflaps said in #41:
> Gerald Ford and Joe Biden both helped us to realize that airplane boarding stairs must be constructed by Democrats. When using them, Ford fell down and Biden fell ... well, you can complete the sentence yourselves.
We also learn thanks to 45th that Air Force 1 door must be larger. Otherwise you have to close an umbrella to bring it inside. ;-P
Let's hope attacks bringing nothing to debate will stop.
> Gerald Ford and Joe Biden both helped us to realize that airplane boarding stairs must be constructed by Democrats. When using them, Ford fell down and Biden fell ... well, you can complete the sentence yourselves.
We also learn thanks to 45th that Air Force 1 door must be larger. Otherwise you have to close an umbrella to bring it inside. ;-P
Let's hope attacks bringing nothing to debate will stop.
www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-revealed-intelligence-secrets-to-russians-in-oval-office-officials-idUSKCN18B2MM/
You must be gullible to think 45th is not an asset to putina because he invaded after 45th left the Office. ;-P
You must be gullible to think 45th is not an asset to putina because he invaded after 45th left the Office. ;-P
@bfchessguy said in #49:
> www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-revealed-intelligence-secrets-to-russians-in-oval-office-officials-idUSKCN18B2MM/
>
> You must be gullible to think 45th is not an asset to putina because he invaded after 45th left the Office. ;-P
We also must not forget:
Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion
www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923
Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough
www.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html
Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence
www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html
> www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-revealed-intelligence-secrets-to-russians-in-oval-office-officials-idUSKCN18B2MM/
>
> You must be gullible to think 45th is not an asset to putina because he invaded after 45th left the Office. ;-P
We also must not forget:
Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion
www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923
Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough
www.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html
Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence
www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html
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