Please define socialism for me and explain how it works

but there is also 'lazyness' if some people are convinced that others can work instead of them.

I do not understand how socialism will some this form of laziness. Please explain more. Thanks for all the answers!

@TheCaptain7777 said in #81:

I do not understand how socialism will some this form of laziness. Please explain more. Thanks for all the answers!

Since there will simply be no more hierarchy, there will no longer be this form of "laziness" since the class of bosses or the super-rich will no longer exist. Be careful, let's be clear that I'm not saying that the class of bosses and the super-rich do nothing. On the contrary, they have worked hard to achieve this status through diplomacy, contacts and money.

Where the "laziness" lies is that there are a minority of people that are convinced that a majority other people can work for them, on behalf of their brands and therefore, others people create the products, while they manage the empire, the relationships with other brands... but they don't products, they take care of the bureaucratic aspect. And bureaucratie is useless in a classless world

@TheCaptain7777 said in #80:

The fact that you spend an absurd amount of time on a chess forum clearly shows that you are not poor.

I am 70 years old. I am retired. I live on a very modest pension. I have always been a working class person throughout my entire life.

Now, I want to learn about the workings of socialism. I do not want to hear about the tyrannical evils of capitalism. I'm sorry for getting sidetracked. Thank you CSKA_Moscou for answering my questions.

Did you read the article on alienation that I posted for you? Did it connect with you at all?

Did you read the article on alienation that I posted for you? Did it connect with you at all?

Yes, I did read it. It was interesting. I'm thankful for your input. Here are my questions about it: Is there scientific banking for the theory of alienation? and does socialism work even if people remain greedy?

Thanks again for your input.

@CSKA_Moscou said in #82:

Since there will simply be no more hierarchy, there will no longer be this form of "laziness" since the class of bosses or the super-rich will no longer exist. Be careful, let's be clear that I'm not saying that the class of bosses and the super-rich do nothing. On the contrary, they have worked hard to achieve this status through diplomacy, contacts and money.

Where the "laziness" lies is that there are a minority of people that are convinced that a majority other people can work for them, on behalf of their brands and therefore, others people create the products, while they manage the empire, the relationships with other brands... but they don't products, they take care of the bureaucratic aspect. And bureaucratie is useless in a classless world

Oh, I get what you're saying now. Thanks for clarifying.

Now about your answer to my fifth question. In a socialist society, I would want to play chess. I value chess and believe it too be an academic pursuit. I imagine that most people would also have various hobbies that they believe to be important. In a capitalist society I am not nearly good enough to get paid to play chess. In a socialist society could I earn money by streaming chess? And is that fair to people who earn money by construction work?

@TheCaptain7777 said in #84:

Yes, I did read it. It was interesting. I'm thankful for your input. Here are my questions about it: Is there scientific banking for the theory of alienation? and does socialism work even if people remain greedy?

I don't know what "scientific banking" means.

What do you mean by "greedy"? The values of capitalism are rooted in competition and acquisition and that is how we are taught from an early age. The values of socialism are rooted in solidarity and sharing and children will be taught those values. Greediness in the sense of wanting more than other people will not exist in the way it does in capitalist society today. People's mentalities will be completely different.

This is the Wikipedia page about Marx's theory of alienation and underneath is Marx's "Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844" . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/preface.htm

@stockwellpete said in #86:

What do you mean by "greedy"? The values of capitalism are rooted in competition and acquisition and that is how we are taught from an early age. The values of socialism are rooted in solidarity and sharing and children will be taught those values. Greediness in the sense of wanting more than other people will not exist in the way it does in capitalist society today. People's mentalities will be completely different.

So what you're saying is that socialism would not work with greed, but you have reason to expect that greed will not exist.

@TheCaptain7777 said in #89:

So what you're saying is that socialism would not work with greed, but you have reason to expect that greed will not exist.

Yes, that's about right. Once socialism is well-established people will have equal access to all the really important things in life - employment, housing, education, healthcare and leisure facilities etc so all their material needs will be catered for. It will not happen straight away, but that will be the main goal of a socialist society.