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Are there 'tells' when a player cheats online?

#1

First, I'm speaking generically, its not allowed to name and shame users per lichess terms of service. Please do not name and shame.

Are there idiosyncrasies that look suspicious in an online game?

First, I'm speaking generically, its not allowed to name and shame users per lichess terms of service. Please do not name and shame. Are there idiosyncrasies that look suspicious in an online game?
#2

I think the biggest tell is an invarible move time..
I don't think accuracy is a reliable tell,even I have a few 0-0-0 games ( but oddly enough no 100pc accuracy games. I always wondered about that,how can the computer analysis say I have 0 inaccuracies but a less than 100pc accuracy assessment )?

I think the biggest tell is an invarible move time.. I don't think accuracy is a reliable tell,even I have a few 0-0-0 games ( but oddly enough no 100pc accuracy games. I always wondered about that,how can the computer analysis say I have 0 inaccuracies but a less than 100pc accuracy assessment )?
#3

I see this in the opening phase of a few of my games. The first 5 to 10 moves on each side look standard or like top 3 move choices. All proceeds in a steady pace. On occasion when I have deviated from predictable play, almost immediately my opponent's active green light goes grey. They're gone for 10 seconds, 30 seconds or longer and then my opponent returns with what appears to be a strong move.

I see this in the opening phase of a few of my games. The first 5 to 10 moves on each side look standard or like top 3 move choices. All proceeds in a steady pace. On occasion when I have deviated from predictable play, almost immediately my opponent's active green light goes grey. They're gone for 10 seconds, 30 seconds or longer and then my opponent returns with what appears to be a strong move.
#4

if you play here a lot,you kind of know how what rating plays.i can tell the difference between a 1900 player and 2400 player.if the 1900 is playing stronger than 2400 player i get suspicious.i can play head to head against an FM,although i will usually lose he will have to work.but if a 2000 player totally wipes me out in a way an FM wouldnt be able to do i get suspicious.An 2000 player can always beat me.But in majority an 2000 player wont be able to outplay the crap out of me.he will usually win with unexpected blunders of mine.But honestly i still cant tell if the guy is cheating or not after all those years of playing

if you play here a lot,you kind of know how what rating plays.i can tell the difference between a 1900 player and 2400 player.if the 1900 is playing stronger than 2400 player i get suspicious.i can play head to head against an FM,although i will usually lose he will have to work.but if a 2000 player totally wipes me out in a way an FM wouldnt be able to do i get suspicious.An 2000 player can always beat me.But in majority an 2000 player wont be able to outplay the crap out of me.he will usually win with unexpected blunders of mine.But honestly i still cant tell if the guy is cheating or not after all those years of playing
#5

@morphyms1817 said in #1:

First, I'm speaking generically, its not allowed to name and shame users per lichess terms of service. Please do not name and shame.

Are there idiosyncrasies that look suspicious in an online game?

  • precision in relation to the length and progress of the game

  • the number of blunders

@morphyms1817 said in #1: > First, I'm speaking generically, its not allowed to name and shame users per lichess terms of service. Please do not name and shame. > > Are there idiosyncrasies that look suspicious in an online game? - precision in relation to the length and progress of the game - the number of blunders
#6

-Irwin looks for play characteristic of chess engines: github.com/clarkerubber/irwin

-Kaladin looks for play uncharacteristic of the players: github.com/lichess-org/kaladin

-Irwin looks for play characteristic of chess engines: github.com/clarkerubber/irwin -Kaladin looks for play uncharacteristic of the players: github.com/lichess-org/kaladin
#8

i never can tell if my opponent is cheating or not, but i can feel differences between players on lichess and chesscom. On lichess, i can usually come back or keep my advantage against 1900 and i can't against some 1200 on chesscom. they don't play perfectly at all, but find more ressources and keep playing strongly in end games. i don't know if it s related to cheating, cause i have no idea how elo compare between the two sites. (i play only 10+5 cause hate loosing on time and can't play quickly ^^).

i doubt it s possible to find out unless they cheat too much, each games and most moves.

i never can tell if my opponent is cheating or not, but i can feel differences between players on lichess and chesscom. On lichess, i can usually come back or keep my advantage against 1900 and i can't against some 1200 on chesscom. they don't play perfectly at all, but find more ressources and keep playing strongly in end games. i don't know if it s related to cheating, cause i have no idea how elo compare between the two sites. (i play only 10+5 cause hate loosing on time and can't play quickly ^^). i doubt it s possible to find out unless they cheat too much, each games and most moves.
#9

@bradjel said in #8:

i never can tell if my opponent is cheating or not, but i can feel differences between players on lichess and chesscom. On lichess, i can usually come back or keep my advantage against 1900 and i can't against some 1200 on chesscom. they don't play perfectly at all, but find more ressources and keep playing strongly in end games. i don't know if it s related to cheating, cause i have no idea how elo compare between the two sites. (i play only 10+5 cause hate loosing on time and can't play quickly ^^).

i doubt it s possible to find out unless they cheat too much, each games and most moves.

It's no wonder why people call chesscom cheatcom

@bradjel said in #8: > i never can tell if my opponent is cheating or not, but i can feel differences between players on lichess and chesscom. On lichess, i can usually come back or keep my advantage against 1900 and i can't against some 1200 on chesscom. they don't play perfectly at all, but find more ressources and keep playing strongly in end games. i don't know if it s related to cheating, cause i have no idea how elo compare between the two sites. (i play only 10+5 cause hate loosing on time and can't play quickly ^^). > > i doubt it s possible to find out unless they cheat too much, each games and most moves. It's no wonder why people call chesscom cheatcom
#10

“It's no wonder why people call chesscom cheatcom“

maybe, but it s hard to prove. maybe 1300 on chesscom are as strong as 1900- 2000 here? does someone know how it compare?

“It's no wonder why people call chesscom cheatcom“ maybe, but it s hard to prove. maybe 1300 on chesscom are as strong as 1900- 2000 here? does someone know how it compare?

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