The annual arenas are held twice a year, but not all...

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #20:

There are different types of "truth". You can be correct in the sense of inductive truth correspondence while not correct in relation to Lichess ToS.

In this case, it is not enough to rely on the truth? Without a reference in the rules somewhere, it does not work?

@Italiya said in #21:

In this case, it is not enough to rely on the truth? Without a reference in the rules somewhere, it does not work?
Not enough for what?

You first asked about honesty.
I answered why there is everyhing ok with honesty accordind to Lichess ToS.
Then you asked me "And how do you imagine the rule about the tournament name? "
When I suggested my option you said that from formal point of view it's there is nothing wrong.
I agreed that from formal point of view with regard to Lichess rules, then yes — there’s nothing technically wrong. But in the formal sense of inductive truth correspondence you are right.

Now you are asking "isn't inductive truth enough?" Enoght for what? To point at honesty problems? No, not enough. But it is enough to be right in the sense of inductive truth. I give you that.
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove to me because I agree wuth you from inductive truth point of view.
I just say that nothing probably will be changed because it doesn't bother anyone. Almost anyone.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #22:

Not enough for what?

You first asked about honesty.
I answered why there is everyhing ok with honesty accordind to Lichess ToS.
Then you asked me "And how do you imagine the rule about the tournament name? "
When I suggested my option you said that from formal point of view it's there is nothing wrong.
I agreed that from formal point of view with regard to Lichess rules, then yes — there’s nothing technically wrong. But in the formal sense of inductive truth correspondence you are right.

Now you are asking "isn't inductive truth enough?" Enoght for what? To point at honesty problems? No, not enough. But it is enough to be right in the sense of inductive truth. I give you that.
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove to me because I agree wuth you from inductive truth point of view.
I just say that nothing probably will be changed because it doesn't bother anyone. Almost anyone.

other words: the name of the arena does not deceive players because there is no clarification in the rules, but formally it is a mistake

@Italiya said in #23:

other words: the name of the arena does not deceive players because there is clarification in the rules, but formally it is a mistake?
Yes, the name of the arena does not deceive players but can mislead some players, but this doesn't bother the winners of the arenas. Lichess is honest because Lichess doesn't hide shedule and ToS doesn't regulate tournament names. And formally you are right about tournament name, this is misatake.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #24:

Yes, the name of the arena does not deceive players but can mislead some players, but this doesn't bother the winners of the arenas. Lichess is honest because Lichess doesn't hide shedule and ToS doesn't regulate tournament names. And formally you are right about tournament name, this is misatake.

So the name of the arena is misleading, but not deceptive?

@Italiya said in #25:

So the name of the arena is misleading, but not deceptive?
Yep. But while it doesn't bother most of the players, especially the winners, I don't think that there will be some changes in the near future.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #26:

Yep. But while it doesn't bother most of the players, especially the winners, I don't think that there will be some changes in the near future.

It doesn't depend on whether it bothers players or not.
Just how does a formal error + misleading not equal cheating? Aren't those two components?

What o_O
When cheating appeared here? This is completely different topic and ToS has clear definition of cheating.
I'm not arguin with you that you are formally right from inductive truth point of view. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

Actually will something be fixed or not vastly rely on how many people are irritated and how troublesome it is to fix.
And even if something bother many players there are still no guarantee that it will be fixed.

@Jean_Gunfighter said in #28:

What o_O
When cheating appeared here? This is completely different topic and ToS has clear definition of cheating.
I'm not arguin with you that you are formally right from inductive truth point of view. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

Actually will something be fixed or not vastly rely on how many people are irritated and how troublesome it is to fix.
And even if something bother many players there are still no guarantee that it will be fixed.

What's strange here is that you call this misleading, but you don't agree that it can be called deception.

@Italiya said in #29:

What's strange here is that you call this misleading, but you don't agree that it can be called deception.
It could be deception if Lichess didn't have possibility to check shedulle and there was ToS regulations about tournament names. While those conditions are not met I call it misleading.