Incorrect Draw

It's not a bug, and it happened to me too. Lichess counts running out of time as accepting this draw. I'm just trying to explain.

@dlbbld said in #20:

The thread states that it may be the case that the "FIDE Online Chess Regulations" treat this case differently.

However, that is not the case. These regulations are as below for the draw offer:

5.3 The player can offer a draw in accordance with any method provided by the playing zone.
The offer cannot be withdrawn and remains valid until the opponent accepts it, rejects it by playing a
move or the game is concluded in some other way

The timeout concludes the game, so the regulations say that the draw offer is not valid anymore after timeout.

In fact, for official FIDE online competitions, the platform must implement the FIDE rules. If the platform does not confirm, the player can appeal. In your example, if the game would be in an official FIDE online competition, you could validly appeal and get the win:

9.14 Unless the competition regulations specify otherwise, a player may appeal against the decision of the
arbiter. This includes appeals against the result of a game, even if the result was set by the playing zone
and approved by the arbiter.
Ok thanks for the clarification. So this is some sort of Lichess policy I guess.
@TAWC-Organizer said in #22:
It's not a bug, and it happened to me too. Lichess counts running out of time as accepting this draw. I'm just trying to explain.
That's the problem. If the FIDE rules don't count it as accepting the draw, then why does Lichess? This is a weird and slightly unfair feature imo.

@dlbbld said in #24:

@SD_2709 I also tried and can confirm the Lichess behavior. To be clear, I do not say Lichess must follow the FIDE rules. I would appreciate it. As an observation, Lichess does not follow the FIDE rules for this case.

Let's forget the FIDE rules for the moment. The system, in some sort, acts as an arbiter. An arbiter should not favor one player. But here, the arbiter (the system) does favor the flagging player. If a player thinks about accepting the draw and tries to find a move giving an advantage, but then doing so flags, the system should not favor the mishap by giving the draw. When the game ends, the draw offer elapses in some natural sense.

So Lichess giving the draw must have a rationale to do so. The player must click the draw button on his own, but here at the end of the game, Lichess pushes the draw button for the player. That is not neutral. I can't see a rationale for doing so. As long I don't learn a rationale, I also say the system behaves unfairly.

I propose that until the opponent accepts or rejects the offer, the arbiter should prevent either player from playing a game ever again. Problem solved.

@Toadofsky said in #25:

I propose that until the opponent accepts or rejects the offer, the arbiter should prevent either player from playing a game ever again. Problem solved.
But unfortunately that is not how it happens currently lol, hence the problem.

I fail to see a problem... yes, this seems to deviate from FIDE rules (which also strictly forbid leaving the playing venue, and also forbid using any other devices or materials during a game, forbid communicating with anyone, etc.) but I see no problem.

I offer draw when the opponent has better position and BEFORE disconnection, because I think it was a network problem..., but if we are equals and i have +400 ranking I think twice....

I will not claim victory if I offer draw... trying to flag seems more ethic