Can't create game with specific side any more

@solo59 said in #491:

I think that for 0.5% abusers,
Lichess is annoying 99.5% of non abusers.
This constraint should target ONLY abusers.
Is there any public communication from Lichess on this?

Just Thibault saying that it was because people abused it to exclusively play white

she is the one who exlusivly plays white all the time, not me, that's why. I speak up on her behalf.
But she is just one of many white/black preferance players. She is not an abuser, nor an unfair player, she wouldnt understand nor know about the match making algo at lichess, about quickpairing matching random preference players with white preference players.
Besides, its an ambigous interpretation. Surely some random players truly do not care which colour they get, while other random players want random for both sides, meaning, they want an as many black games as white games on the long run.

@BeDecentForAChange said in #496:

Surely you are not suggesting that we force someone to build and maintain this for free? It would make more sense that those who ask for it, build it

And who asked to deactivate the color selection?

@teddyd said in #513:

And who asked to deactivate the color selection?

Not sure, you tell me?

@BeDecentForAChange said in #514:

Not sure, you tell me?

That was a rhetorical question.

@teddyd said in #515:

That was a rhetorical question.

The point you are trying to make?

@teddyd said in #513:

And who asked to deactivate the color selection?

I did!

The one who changed it is responsible for white/black option gone in rated/casual games. Cost would not be incurred if that change had not been done in the first place.

Simplest would be to fall back to the previous verision, delete those 2 lines that deactivated this feature.
However, that would leave the other side unhappy, those who do quick pairings and expect a 50/50 share in their white/black games.
So the 2 lines are a solution (they disable the feature), but not an optimal solution. Delete them, and insert instead a solution like previously suggested multiple times. This should not be too many lines of code, and they hardly increase the cost of maintenance.

If mainentance cost are an issue, get rid of some features that are less popular. But I guess this is another topic to be discussed somewhere else.

@Munich said in #518:

The one who changed it is responsible for white/black option gone in rated/casual games. Cost would not be incurred if that change had not been done in the first place.

But the change was needed to battle abuse.

Simplest would be to fall back to the previous verision, delete those 2 lines that deactivated this feature.

Please show the two lines that you are referring to in the github Repo

However, that would leave the other side unhappy, those who do quick pairings and expect a 50/50 share in their white/black games.
So the 2 lines are a solution (they disable the feature), but not an optimal solution. Delete them, and insert instead a solution like previously suggested multiple times. This should be too many lines of code, and they hardly increase the cost if maintenance.

It is not a solution at all. It would invite back the abuse that Thibault pushed to fight.

If mainentance cost are an issue, get rid of some features that are less popular. But I guess this is another topic to be discussed somewhere else.

My mom uses all of these other features and would be upset if that happened, so that's not an option

Please revert this at the very least for casual games. When I try learning a new opening, I'll play hundreds of CASUAL blitz games with a given color against humans and bots. I find it very useful.