Can't create game with specific side any more

I think that for 0.5% abusers,
Lichess is annoying 99.5% of non abusers.
This constraint should target ONLY abusers.
Is there any public communication from Lichess on this?

@solo59 said in #491:

I think that for 0.5% abusers,
Lichess is annoying 99.5% of non abusers.
This constraint should target ONLY abusers.
Is there any public communication from Lichess on this?

True. Unfortunately that's the consequence of abusers, they ruin it for the rest of us

Stop refering to players (who chose a certain colour) as "abusers"! This is a minority demonization.

Lichess should not be a platform for stigmatization of a minority.

@Munich said in #493:

Stop refering to players (who chose a certain colour) as "abusers"! This is a minority demonization.

So is calling people who cheat, cheaters. But if the the shoe fits...

Lichess should not be a platform for stigmatization of a minority.

People who abuse stuff or people are referred to as abusers. People who cheat are referred to as cheaters. People who lose on purpose are referred to as sandbaggers.

From now on, we call everyone doorknobs, lampshades or waterbowls.

@BeDecentForAChange said in #520:

I'm not saying that's a bad solution, but someone needs to build and maintain it

It could be done by the person who has deactivated the color selection.

@teddyd said in #495:

It could be done by the person who has deactivated the color selection.

Surely you are not suggesting that we force someone to build and maintain this for free? It would make more sense that those who ask for it, build it

according to lichess terms of service you indeed may not call anyone cheater. But a player, who prefers/selects to play white/black in a challenge seek is not a cheater, nor an abuser, nor unfair person.

Name it: "a bug was fixed" (if you think it was a bug), but dont blame, accuse people to have used a feature of lichess. It is not nice to refer to them as abusers or unfair players or suckers or whatever here was dropped within meanwhile 500 contribution.

It is stigmatization, and not acceptable.

@Munich said in #497:

according to lichess terms of service you indeed may not call anyone cheater. But a player, who prefers/selects to play white/black in a challenge seek is not a cheater, nor an abuser, nor unfair person.

Not a cheater, but an abuser and definitely unfair. They abuse a feature to get an unfair advantage.

Name it: "a bug was fixed" (if you think it was a bug), but dont blame, accuse people to have used a feature of lichess. It is not nice to refer to them as abusers or unfair players or suckers or whatever here was dropped within meanwhile 500 contribution.

It was not a bug, calling it a bug is a horrible stigmatization of the engineers.

It is stigmatization, and not acceptable.

the only unfair thing about it was that quick pairings were paired with random vs white/black (instead of random).
As the quick pairings offer certain time controlls only, but white/black players do so mostly in open challenge (lobby) seek, this is likely a minority within a minority of games.
But it wasnt the players that was unfair, but the lichess pairing. It misinterpreted "random" with "accept play black", while likely it is meant a player wants random for both sides. Thus, a filter ("If then") would need to be implemented.

If someone wants white/black and uses time control 5m/0s, then his seek should only appear in the lobby, not automatically be paired with someone who chose quickpairings. Unless he truly does not care, then an appropriate button to select would be needed, too. If he opted then he truly doesnt care, this would have the advantage that he gets a game somewhat quicker served. Though I doubt waiting times are a problem.

@Munich said in #497:

according to lichess terms of service you indeed may not call anyone cheater. But a player, who prefers/selects to play white/black in a challenge seek is not a cheater, nor an abuser, nor unfair person.

Name it: "a bug was fixed" (if you think it was a bug), but dont blame, accuse people to have used a feature of lichess. It is not nice to refer to them as abusers or unfair players or suckers or whatever here was dropped within meanwhile 500 contribution.

It is stigmatization, and not acceptable.

Whoa, don't refer to is as stigmatization. Calling it that is oppressive and an attack on freedom of speech. You can not marginalize a minority's freedom of speech like that.

Unacceptable.