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Why did lichess ban me on a 8-move game with theory and bad moves?

#1

I wrote them the following:

I deny having used outside assistance in my games. I seems based on lichess.org/yC981V3B cause i lost for no reason. I play the wing gambit many times as you can see in my profile and yes i analyse the games after they have been played. But i can´t even remember a position like that. It was just 8 moves in the game. Bishop a3 is a normal move in that gambit and the one before c4 was even bad. So if i would want to cheat i would do it from the start :-)

So please remove the ban.

The answer itself seems arrogant to me:
We will not remove the ban on your account.

After investigating your case, we have determined that our cheat detection algorithms flagged your account with sufficient evidence for the mark to remain. We are continuously improving our cheat detection so that we can aggressively prevent cheating while minimising false positives.

Lichess has robust detection methods and a thorough process for reviewing evidence and making decisions. The process sometimes involves many moderators and can take a long time. Other than the mark itself, we will not go into details about evidence or the decision making process for individual cases. It is strict Lichess policy not to discuss specific details about cheat detection publicly with anyone ever, as doing so would only make it easier for cheaters to avoid detection, in addition to inviting unproductive debates. Any attempts to start such a debate will be ignored.

This means we will ignore any new messages about this mark. This was our final decision and it will not be changed in any way. Also note that the outcome of the appeal will not change even if you admit to cheating now.

You are responsible for all activity on your account.

I wrote them the following: I deny having used outside assistance in my games. I seems based on lichess.org/yC981V3B cause i lost for no reason. I play the wing gambit many times as you can see in my profile and yes i analyse the games after they have been played. But i can´t even remember a position like that. It was just 8 moves in the game. Bishop a3 is a normal move in that gambit and the one before c4 was even bad. So if i would want to cheat i would do it from the start :-) So please remove the ban. The answer itself seems arrogant to me: We will not remove the ban on your account. After investigating your case, we have determined that our cheat detection algorithms flagged your account with sufficient evidence for the mark to remain. We are continuously improving our cheat detection so that we can aggressively prevent cheating while minimising false positives. Lichess has robust detection methods and a thorough process for reviewing evidence and making decisions. The process sometimes involves many moderators and can take a long time. Other than the mark itself, we will not go into details about evidence or the decision making process for individual cases. It is strict Lichess policy not to discuss specific details about cheat detection publicly with anyone ever, as doing so would only make it easier for cheaters to avoid detection, in addition to inviting unproductive debates. Any attempts to start such a debate will be ignored. This means we will ignore any new messages about this mark. This was our final decision and it will not be changed in any way. Also note that the outcome of the appeal will not change even if you admit to cheating now. You are responsible for all activity on your account.
#3

I suddenly lost the game and at the same time the ban appeard. Also i didn´ t play other games the day before.

I suddenly lost the game and at the same time the ban appeard. Also i didn´ t play other games the day before.
#5

@TalMagicalDragon Till it happens to yourself

Try to imagine how it feels to be called a cheater if it isn´t true. I understand that cheat prevention is important and i have faced many cheates myself before. But that ban can´t have ANY evidence!

bye lichess

@TalMagicalDragon Till it happens to yourself Try to imagine how it feels to be called a cheater if it isn´t true. I understand that cheat prevention is important and i have faced many cheates myself before. But that ban can´t have ANY evidence! bye lichess
#6

I understand if i would be in your situation i would be sad too but i have faced many cheaters who post in forums too escape ban . you can try appealing

I understand if i would be in your situation i would be sad too but i have faced many cheaters who post in forums too escape ban . you can try appealing
#7

I did, and i got the answer which i posted in the first post. I started the post cause i thought it is based on this game and was curious what the reason might be. But you are right. It may be another game. But that wouldn´t change anything.

I won´t contact lichess anymore after their response. Life goes on on another platform. Funny, when i read other posters who got banned i thought the same like you :-)

Thanks for your time to respond.

I did, and i got the answer which i posted in the first post. I started the post cause i thought it is based on this game and was curious what the reason might be. But you are right. It may be another game. But that wouldn´t change anything. I won´t contact lichess anymore after their response. Life goes on on another platform. Funny, when i read other posters who got banned i thought the same like you :-) Thanks for your time to respond.
#8

Well but did anyone analysis the game @SoundTell had 28 centipawn loss and 1 inaccuracy and 1 mistake so I guess engine won't make that🤔🤔

Well but did anyone analysis the game @SoundTell had 28 centipawn loss and 1 inaccuracy and 1 mistake so I guess engine won't make that🤔🤔

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