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I wonder if it is possible to use another engine than stockfish to analyse our games on lichess ?
I would like to use Lc0 for example, whitch I use under arena etc

I wonder if it is possible to use another engine than stockfish to analyse our games on lichess ? I would like to use Lc0 for example, whitch I use under arena etc

kertandidi

#2

@Sateh download it and import the pgn

Sateh

#3

Sorry, I didn't understand your answer. Do you mean I have to import my pgn under arena ?
What I want is simply analyse quickly with Lc0 my blitz games under lichess.

Sorry, I didn't understand your answer. Do you mean I have to import my pgn under arena ? What I want is simply analyse quickly with Lc0 my blitz games under lichess.

Alakaluf

#4

@Sateh I 've mentioned the same idea up as a feature request in the other forum at least a year ago already... And others as well .....

drmrboss

#5

Lco hardware is 2x to 5x more expensive than Stockfish.
Not possible within next 3-4 years.

Lco hardware is 2x to 5x more expensive than Stockfish. Not possible within next 3-4 years.

Sateh

#6

At least having the choice. I have Rtx grahpic card for Lc0

djungelskog

#7

If you are looking for a cleaner way to use Lc0, use nibbler. It has a very clean interface and Leela specific features. As others mentioned, loading different engines into lichess is not likely to happen in the near future. It would be difficult for a number of reasons. Additionally, the benefit is not significant as many engines will agree in most normal human v. human positions, especially at lower levels, or at least will recommend the other engine's top choice within the top 4-5 moves. Perhaps they will release a GUI of the analysis board for offline use?

Here is the nibbler download: https://github.com/fohristiwhirl/nibbler

If you are looking for a cleaner way to use Lc0, use nibbler. It has a very clean interface and Leela specific features. As others mentioned, loading different engines into lichess is not likely to happen in the near future. It would be difficult for a number of reasons. Additionally, the benefit is not significant as many engines will agree in most normal human v. human positions, especially at lower levels, or at least will recommend the other engine's top choice within the top 4-5 moves. Perhaps they will release a GUI of the analysis board for offline use? Here is the nibbler download: https://github.com/fohristiwhirl/nibbler

Alakaluf

#8

@drmrboss We'd like to have analysis with Leela in the browser. And even though I don't possess a graphics card, I like Leela's analysis more, using dkappe's condensed nets.

drmrboss

#9

@Alakaluf , browser Leela will be massively inferior to Stockfish and perform as weak as 15 years old engine ( or 400 elo weaker ) and you will see horrible moves comparedbto Stockfish.

What is the point of running an engine that is approx × 100 times to slower than running on her optimum conditions. ( graphic cards)

@Alakaluf , browser Leela will be massively inferior to Stockfish and perform as weak as 15 years old engine ( or 400 elo weaker ) and you will see horrible moves comparedbto Stockfish. What is the point of running an engine that is approx × 100 times to slower than running on her optimum conditions. ( graphic cards)

Alakaluf

#10

@drmrboss The point is that I do not want to see the "best moves" at all from the machine, but good moves that are a bit more humanly than Stockfish's. That fit more to my playing style than Stockfish's.

For me, from a strength point of view, Stockfish with a rating of maybe 3000 is the same as Leela with a rating of 2600.
Both are far far ahead of me. These 400 points difference are completely irrelevant for me.
It is like looking from the base of the Himalaya to the Mount Everest and the K2. No difference in height.

But, as Leela makes a bit more human moves I like them more, they fit more to my style and I understand them more and I want to see them more. Needn't even be Leela, there are other machines which I like more than Stockfish. Gull e.g. or Komodo.

@drmrboss The point is that I do not want to see the "best moves" at all from the machine, but good moves that are a bit more humanly than Stockfish's. That fit more to my playing style than Stockfish's. For me, from a strength point of view, Stockfish with a rating of maybe 3000 is the same as Leela with a rating of 2600. Both are far far ahead of me. These 400 points difference are completely irrelevant for me. It is like looking from the base of the Himalaya to the Mount Everest and the K2. No difference in height. But, as Leela makes a bit more human moves I like them more, they fit more to my style and I understand them more and I want to see them more. Needn't even be Leela, there are other machines which I like more than Stockfish. Gull e.g. or Komodo.