#9 2. Nf7+ Rxf7 ;)
#10 and # 11 True, I don´t calculated this variant.
Thank you
#10 and # 11 True, I don´t calculated this variant.
Thank you
Daan what you are sayin is very true. There is so much more to becoming a strong chess player than just solving tactics. However, I encourage solving tactics because it teaches the important skill of evaluating positions that is normally not practiced enough. That being said, what you say definetly has its merit.
Daan what you are sayin is very true. There is so much more to becoming a strong chess player than just solving tactics. However, I encourage solving tactics because it teaches the important skill of evaluating positions that is normally not practiced enough. That being said, what you say definetly has its merit.
"clear win for white" mhm
"clear win for white" mhm
The position is a draw. Here is the analysis:
- Bh6+ Kxh6 2. Qf7 Rh8 3. Ng4+ Kh5 4. Ne3 e6 5. Rde1 Rd2 6. Rf3 Bxf4 7. Rxf4
Qd7 8. Rxf6 Qxf7 9. Rxf7 Nd6 10. Re7 b5 11. Rxe6 bxa4 12. Nf1 Rd5 13. Ne3 Rd2
- g4+ Kg5 15. Nf1 Rd5 16. Ne3 Rd2 17. h4+ Kxh4 18. Nf1 Rxc2 19. Rxd6 a3 20.
Rxa6 Rxc3 21. Re3 Rc1 22. Rf3 Ra1 23. Raxa3 Rxa3 24. Rxa3 Kxg4 25. Ra4+ Kf5 26.
Ne3+ Ke5 27. Kg2 h5 28. Nc4+ Kd4 29. Nb6+ Ke5 30. Nc4+ Ke6 31. Kf3 Kd5 32. Ne3+
Ke5 33. Kg3 g5 34. Rc4 h4+ 35. Kh3 Rc8 36. Kg4 Kf6 37. Nf1 Kg6 38. Nd2 Rf8 39.
Nf3 Rf5 40. Ra4 Rf4+ 41. Rxf4 gxf4 42. Nxh4+ Kf6 43. Kxf4 c4 44. Ke3 Ke5 45.
Nf3+ Kd5 46. Nd4 Kc5 47. Ne6+ Kb4 48. Nf4 c3 49. Nd3+ Kb3 50. Nc1+ Kc2 51. Ne2
Kb2 52. Nf4 c2 53. Nd3+ Kb1 54. Kd2 c1=Q+ 55. Nxc1 1/2-1/2
The position is a draw. Here is the analysis:
1. Bh6+ Kxh6 2. Qf7 Rh8 3. Ng4+ Kh5 4. Ne3 e6 5. Rde1 Rd2 6. Rf3 Bxf4 7. Rxf4
Qd7 8. Rxf6 Qxf7 9. Rxf7 Nd6 10. Re7 b5 11. Rxe6 bxa4 12. Nf1 Rd5 13. Ne3 Rd2
14. g4+ Kg5 15. Nf1 Rd5 16. Ne3 Rd2 17. h4+ Kxh4 18. Nf1 Rxc2 19. Rxd6 a3 20.
Rxa6 Rxc3 21. Re3 Rc1 22. Rf3 Ra1 23. Raxa3 Rxa3 24. Rxa3 Kxg4 25. Ra4+ Kf5 26.
Ne3+ Ke5 27. Kg2 h5 28. Nc4+ Kd4 29. Nb6+ Ke5 30. Nc4+ Ke6 31. Kf3 Kd5 32. Ne3+
Ke5 33. Kg3 g5 34. Rc4 h4+ 35. Kh3 Rc8 36. Kg4 Kf6 37. Nf1 Kg6 38. Nd2 Rf8 39.
Nf3 Rf5 40. Ra4 Rf4+ 41. Rxf4 gxf4 42. Nxh4+ Kf6 43. Kxf4 c4 44. Ke3 Ke5 45.
Nf3+ Kd5 46. Nd4 Kc5 47. Ne6+ Kb4 48. Nf4 c3 49. Nd3+ Kb3 50. Nc1+ Kc2 51. Ne2
Kb2 52. Nf4 c2 53. Nd3+ Kb1 54. Kd2 c1=Q+ 55. Nxc1 1/2-1/2
My Stockfish after 1:30h, reaching depth 38 also came with:
1.Bh6+ Kxh6 2.Qf7 Rh8 3.Ng4+ Kh5 4.Ne3 e6 5.Rde1 Rd2 6.Rf3 Bxf4 7.Rxf4 Qc7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 b5 11.Rxe6 bxa4 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
The easiest way from here is just repeating Nf1 and Ne5:
14.Nf1 Rd5 15.Ne3 Rd2 (every other black's move gives clear advantage for white)
My Stockfish after 1:30h, reaching depth 38 also came with:
1.Bh6+ Kxh6 2.Qf7 Rh8 3.Ng4+ Kh5 4.Ne3 e6 5.Rde1 Rd2 6.Rf3 Bxf4 7.Rxf4 Qc7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 b5 11.Rxe6 bxa4 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
The easiest way from here is just repeating Nf1 and Ne5:
14.Nf1 Rd5 15.Ne3 Rd2 (every other black's move gives clear advantage for white)
In my opinion these 10+ moves "puzzles" (including waiting moves when opponent can just do whatever) are far too complexed, and probably in game just opponent did a mistake allowing white to win.
Anyway, still waiting for "winning line" from TitleKiller (will "stockfish" it move by move), maybe we are wrong. :)
In my opinion these 10+ moves "puzzles" (including waiting moves when opponent can just do whatever) are far too complexed, and probably in game just opponent did a mistake allowing white to win.
Anyway, still waiting for "winning line" from TitleKiller (will "stockfish" it move by move), maybe we are wrong. :)
The first 7 moves are 1. Bh6+ Kxh6 2. Qf7 Rh8 3. Ng4+ Kh5 4. Ne3 e6 5. Rde1 Rd2 6. Rf3 Bxf4 7. Rxf4
There are at least 4 possible drawing lines for black's 7th move:
7...Qd6 8.Rf3 Qd7 9.Rh3+ Kg5 10.Rg3+ Kh5 11.Rh3+
7...Qc7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 Kg5 11.Rxe6 Rf8 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
7...Qd7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 Kg5 11.Rxe6 Rf8 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
7...f5 8.Rf3 Qd7 9.Rh3+ Kg3 10.Rg3+ Kh5 11.Rh3+
The first 7 moves are 1. Bh6+ Kxh6 2. Qf7 Rh8 3. Ng4+ Kh5 4. Ne3 e6 5. Rde1 Rd2 6. Rf3 Bxf4 7. Rxf4
There are at least 4 possible drawing lines for black's 7th move:
7...Qd6 8.Rf3 Qd7 9.Rh3+ Kg5 10.Rg3+ Kh5 11.Rh3+
7...Qc7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 Kg5 11.Rxe6 Rf8 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
7...Qd7 8.Rxf6 Qxf7 9.Rxf7 Nd6 10.Re7 Kg5 11.Rxe6 Rf8 12.Nf1 Rd5 13.Ne3 Rd2
7...f5 8.Rf3 Qd7 9.Rh3+ Kg3 10.Rg3+ Kh5 11.Rh3+
Kamilczak did your enginie take so long to find a draw?
mine took 30 seconds
Kamilczak did your enginie take so long to find a draw?
mine took 30 seconds
I just found the game that TitleKiller mentioned earlier in this thread (Lelchuk – Voronova USSR 1983) For anyone interested in the original game, here it is: http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com/dvoretsky/dvoretsky71.pdf
I just found the game that TitleKiller mentioned earlier in this thread (Lelchuk – Voronova USSR 1983) For anyone interested in the original game, here it is: http://billwall.phpwebhosting.com/dvoretsky/dvoretsky71.pdf