PLayers with Black aborting

I believe that if they abort they should lose their bishops in the next game they play, to discourage doing that.

@hellossttss said in #21:

I believe that if they abort they should lose their bishops in the next game they play, to discourage doing that.

Imagine if every time they abort, they permanently lose one point of material. So if they abort once, they start with one fewer pawn for the rest of their lifetime on Lichess. Then if they lose all their pawns and they abort again, they lose a knight and gain back two pawns. Then if they lose all their pieces, they have to just start with a king, and if they abort yet again, they are finally permanently banned!

@KMcGeoch said in #2:

I'm pretty sure it's down to Lichess deciding you could no longer specify white or black when getting paired. This means if wanting to practice a specific white/black opening half your games are wasted in terms of learning new line.

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Not in terms of learning the time is not wasted. It should be beneficial to play both colors of an opening. Playing the white side of the open sicilian should help you to become a better player as Black in the same opening. It may have an impact on your winning percentage. But all you've got to do is have a "play to win" account on one server, and a "play to learn" account on the other. edit: or have a friends list that you can play thematic chess with, if you want to stick to lichess.

@jjjsmith said in #23:

I'm pretty sure it's down to Lichess deciding you could no longer specify white or black when getting paired. This means if wanting to practice a specific white/black opening half your games are wasted in terms of learning new line.

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Not in terms of learning the time is not wasted. It should be beneficial to play both colors of an opening. Playing the white side of the open sicilian should help you to become a better player as Black in the same opening. It may have an impact on your winning percentage. But all you've got to do is have a "play to win" account on one server, and a "play to learn" account on the other.

Going to have to disagree with you there. If you've specifically studied a line you want to practice that line. It's all very nice saying that the white side of an open sicilian helps you play same line as black but I'll note that even if you had studied line from other side that after 1.e4 black can play 1...e5, french, caro-kann, scandinavian, pirc, modern etc that isn't anywhere near lines you want to practice.

Just to show how unpractical it is based on Lichess openings after 1.e4 you only have a 38% chance of facing a Sicilian and then after 2.Nf3 there's split between 2...d6, 2...Nc6 and 2...e6 with main choice being 2...d6 that happens 42% of the time. So this means if line you want to play is 2...d6 silician then you have a 16% chance of reaching the position you want to practice from the other side and an 84% chance of facing an opening not in your repertoire for either colour.

Overall it's just an inefficient way to learn and familiarise yourself with these kinds of positions if you rarely encounter them..

think they get banned if they do it a lot

@KMcGeoch said in #24:

Going to have to disagree with you there. If you've specifically studied a line you want to practice that line. It's all very nice saying that the white side of an open sicilian helps you play same line as black but I'll note that even if you had studied line from other side that after 1.e4 black can play 1...e5, french, caro-kann, scandinavian, pirc, modern etc that isn't anywhere near lines you want to practice.

Alright then, dude. Whatever you say. Playing both sides of an opening is a waste of time, as far as learning goes.

losing rating points for not playing was never part of the rating system. Unscrupulous players will do it 500 times to sand bag their rating. Suspensions and increasing suspension and eventually banning someone is much more effective says US Chess National TD and FIDE International Arbiter

Anti sandbagging warning of Lichess is this:

<<To ensure a fair and enjoyable experience for everyone, our policy requires that players try their best to win every rated game.>>

If I understand it correctly, this should also apply to the very beginning of rated games.

About the end of rated games, it literally means that even in a lost position resigning is undesireable behaviour.

@fin34601473braunpaul said in #28:

About the end of rated games, it literally means that even in a lost position resigning is undesireable behaviour.

It just means what it says, of course resigning in a lost position is fine. Just use your judgment.