It is immoral , but not illegal , to continue playing when you are definitely losing.
Bullet and Ultrabullet are exceptions , nobody resigns there.
It is immoral , but not illegal , to continue playing when you are definitely losing.
Bullet and Ultrabullet are exceptions , nobody resigns there.
@amwhere and @Fates2 , it looks like you're not in the position to disagree with anything about resigning or keep playing chess games. Please note that sometimes even Alekhine himself was playing lost games till the end, allowing his opponent to checkmate. It isn't disrespectful at all. Some people believe that there are many similarities between chess and war. Obviously, you can resign at any time, if you are a coward. And, by the way, Emmanuel Lasker was playing his lost games until the last stalemate possibility. Once again, who are you guys to establish any rules about resigning? Keep calm and enjoy the game!
@amwhere and @Fates2 , it looks like you're not in the position to disagree with anything about resigning or keep playing chess games. Please note that sometimes even Alekhine himself was playing lost games till the end, allowing his opponent to checkmate. It isn't disrespectful at all. Some people believe that there are many similarities between chess and war. Obviously, you can resign at any time, if you are a coward. And, by the way, Emmanuel Lasker was playing his lost games until the last stalemate possibility. Once again, who are you guys to establish any rules about resigning? Keep calm and enjoy the game!
I'm joining this board mainly because I saw @shockedthemonkey's username, loved it, and had to see what was going on. :)
I've been a chess player for 48 years (albeit not a very good one). No one should get indignant or angry at an opponent who doesn't resign. It's his or her right to play to the bitter end. Yes, it's stubborn. And yes, your opponent isn't making it easy for you. But it isn't an insult. Stubbornness is a valuable trait in combat, which chess most assuredly is.
I'd encourage players to adopt the following mindsets:
WHEN a losing player resigns, think: "Thanks. That's sensible and I appreciate the compliment you're making about my ability."
WHEN a losing player does NOT resign, think: "OK, you want to see if I can play a good endgame. That's your right. Let's do it."
Also, for those of you interested in the subject of what to do about poor sports on Lichess who abandon losing positions or refuse to move: See my post in the Feedback forum, titled "Proposal: Karma/Sportsmanship Rating." It's located here:
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/proposal-karmasportsmanship-rating
Thanks.
I'm joining this board mainly because I saw @shockedthemonkey's username, loved it, and had to see what was going on. :)
I've been a chess player for 48 years (albeit not a very good one). No one should get indignant or angry at an opponent who doesn't resign. It's his or her right to play to the bitter end. Yes, it's stubborn. And yes, your opponent isn't making it easy for you. But it isn't an insult. Stubbornness is a valuable trait in combat, which chess most assuredly is.
I'd encourage players to adopt the following mindsets:
WHEN a losing player resigns, think: "Thanks. That's sensible and I appreciate the compliment you're making about my ability."
WHEN a losing player does NOT resign, think: "OK, you want to see if I can play a good endgame. That's your right. Let's do it."
Also, for those of you interested in the subject of what to do about poor sports on Lichess who abandon losing positions or refuse to move: See my post in the Feedback forum, titled "Proposal: Karma/Sportsmanship Rating." It's located here:
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/proposal-karmasportsmanship-rating
Thanks.
GSP0113, That's a good idea, If that was possible I would be all for it, I bet it would also curtail most of the game abandonment, in addition to showing who the poor sports are.
GSP0113, That's a good idea, If that was possible I would be all for it, I bet it would also curtail most of the game abandonment, in addition to showing who the poor sports are.
@GSP0113 , There is nothing more clear than what you pointed about this topic. However, some fast resigning chess players may forever disagree with your arguments. Lol
@GSP0113 , There is nothing more clear than what you pointed about this topic. However, some fast resigning chess players may forever disagree with your arguments. Lol
After further consideration I wanted to add that when you play games out it helps identify computer cheaters better because it is so hard to keep playing the "best move" when you're winning. Humans tend not to do that, humans prefer to simplify. If everybody resigns early it makes it harder to tell a computer cheater from an opening specialist!
Also a short story. In 2006 I was playing in a classical OTB tournament, and I realized I was going to lose a full piece, without any compensation. Instead of resigning, I spent a full hour searching for a line, and I eventually found a 16 move dynamically forced combination that led to a draw. I was skeptical that I'd really found a way out, but the game followed my line and I secured the draw. The computers of that age said it was a real line, my op never made a mistake and played a "perfect" game.
A decade before that, as an E player, I stalemated an arrogant A player in a casual rapid game while he was literally berating me for not resigning as we played! The look on his face as I shouted "DRAW" cured me of resigning. ;)
After further consideration I wanted to add that when you play games out it helps identify computer cheaters better because it is so hard to keep playing the "best move" when you're winning. Humans tend not to do that, humans prefer to simplify. If everybody resigns early it makes it harder to tell a computer cheater from an opening specialist!
Also a short story. In 2006 I was playing in a classical OTB tournament, and I realized I was going to lose a full piece, without any compensation. Instead of resigning, I spent a full hour searching for a line, and I eventually found a 16 move dynamically forced combination that led to a draw. I was skeptical that I'd really found a way out, but the game followed my line and I secured the draw. The computers of that age said it was a real line, my op never made a mistake and played a "perfect" game.
A decade before that, as an E player, I stalemated an arrogant A player in a casual rapid game while he was literally berating me for not resigning as we played! The look on his face as I shouted "DRAW" cured me of resigning. ;)
My strategy against clock drainers is to put them on a bm list. when I'm under-rated i play against people on my bm list and try-hard them. otherwise i play like I normally do switching back and forth between youtube or netflix
My strategy against clock drainers is to put them on a bm list. when I'm under-rated i play against people on my bm list and try-hard them. otherwise i play like I normally do switching back and forth between youtube or netflix