Lichess admins took down a post because i called out their weak cheat detection system

@WarlordGuru said in #6:

I agree with you .

The reason that you used to get weekly notifications, is because some of us do our best to diligently report suspicious accounts.

Those of us who have successfully reported 100s of accounts, are fully aware that we are no longer seeing ANY of the kinds of accounts that we could confidently report and have successfully banned.

The reason that you no longer getting weekly notifications, is because their algorithms have evolved to where they are banning accounts which trigger a whole plethora of red-flag benchmarks.

You're not getting report notifications because the people whom you're speaking of are banned before you ever even know that they exist.

Stay lovely!

@Butcherooooo said in #17:

Right okay so just ignore cheating in chess thats so widespread because uhhhh if you're good you'll just get your ratings back, kinda like what's the point of a shop hiring security, if they're successful they'll just restock their shelves

not ignore. report and let the system do its thing.

lichess know it takes them a few days to process a report. lichess know how many cheaters they ban a day. lichess know cheaters are annoying.

you can offer feedback, they probably like receiving feedback. their aim is to advance chess and if they get helpful feedback, that helps them with their aim. but, it's not helpful to complain about the same thing every week, they already know the situation with cheaters better than you.

so, if you don't like feeling annoyed, then don't feel annoyed. if you want to walk around feeling annoyed all the time, then go for it.

"lichess know it takes them a few days to process a report."

No it doesn't people who are actively cheating can get banned on the spot and have done, it doesn't;t always happen after 3 days, especially when a guy is going from 1 game to another cheating

And once again your post makes no sense, i will not just ignore cheating just because it makes me feel annoyed i will continue to complain and highlight a glaring flaw in their system

@Butcherooooo said in #9:

I never said such a thing and lichess already deleted my initial response so i'll just paraphrase

You have a one-sided hatred towards me and the people i said cheated actually cheated and were banned so try again.

Of course you "forgot" about your loss against SOJB, where you accused him for cheating afterwards. ;)

@derkleineJo said in #24:

Of course you "forgot" about your loss against SOJB, where you accused him for cheating afterwards. ;)

1st of all that was 1 occurrence, you said i say that to everyone i lose against
2nd he was oddly adamant on playing a fast time control which allows for cheating and once that was changed i obliterated him, so you can shift along mate

@Butcherooooo said in #19:

"Secondly, it sounds as though your ego wants to cheat and is attempting to justify a rationale for itself of "they deserve it" and "I'm owed points" and "almost everyone cheats, and so it's like I'm cheating myself if I'm the only one playing fairly""

This comment made no sense whatsoever, you think i want to cheat because i made a post about lichess not doing enough about cheating????

What?

Yes. Absolutely. That's exactly what I'm saying.
It tracks logically, and that's before we examine the swaths of testimonies of repentant cheaters who testify to this precise point.

I'm very interested in the per capita amount of people who are banned for cheating, who also exaggerate it and complain about it in the forums.

I'm sure that the ratio is glaring and makes plain the 'going-ons' behind the eyeballs of people.

oh also @simonbirch i'll play this one classical game with you but i can't do 30+

15-20 max this is too long a time control

@Butcherooooo said in #23:

@Butcherooooo said in #23:

"lichess know it takes them a few days to process a report."

No it doesn't people who are actively cheating can get banned on the spot and have done, it doesn't;t always happen after 3 days, especially when a guy is going from 1 game to another cheating

so the automated system works. the manual review takes a few days.

And once again your post makes no sense, i will not just ignore cheating just because it makes me feel annoyed i will continue to complain and highlight a glaring flaw in their system

you do you. walk around feeling annoyed, enjoy.

@h2b2 said in #28:

so the automated system works. the manual review takes a few days.

You missed the point, the point was the automated system didn't work when it should've try and follow what is actually being written.

you do you. walk around feeling annoyed, enjoy.

Cheers pal you've said this twice, now move along.

@Onyx_Chess said in #26:

Yes. Absolutely. That's exactly what I'm saying.
It tracks logically, and that's before we examine the swaths of testimonies of repentant cheaters who testify to this precise point.

I'm very interested in the per capita amount of people who are banned for cheating, who also exaggerate it and complain about it in the forums.

I'm sure that the ratio is glaring and makes plain the 'going-ons' behind the eyeballs of people.

Nope none of this makes any sense whatsoever, anyone that cheats in chess is dishonourable and deserves not to play the game plain and simple