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How to deal with cheaters in online chess?

#21

@bruhmomentum2007 I think its because the thread has been stickied by a moderator/ Thibault himself, because when you're the leader of a team, you have the power to sticky certain threads in the team forum, which make it go to the top, and turn it into a green, to make it differentiate from the other threads, so I believe mods can do this in normal forums

@bruhmomentum2007 I think its because the thread has been stickied by a moderator/ Thibault himself, because when you're the leader of a team, you have the power to sticky certain threads in the team forum, which make it go to the top, and turn it into a green, to make it differentiate from the other threads, so I believe mods can do this in normal forums
#23

#17 Lichess moderators can mark few forum threads as "Sticky".That means these threads are supposed to be more important and deserves more attention than the rest of the other forum threads.

#17 Lichess moderators can mark few forum threads as "Sticky".That means these threads are supposed to be more important and deserves more attention than the rest of the other forum threads.
#25

This should definitely be unpinned.

There is a clear argument for burying these topics ASAP.

It's better that a new one pop up every second day, rather than having the word "cheat" being static and permanent at the top of the forums.

If one should be pinned, it should be manufactured where the first 3 comments are all instructive, reassuring, and serve to help correct the problem.

  1. Might be instructions on how to report with pictures included.

  2. Might be someone testifying to the proficiency of the Lichess anti-cheat division.

  3. Might be someone testifying to the minimal nature of cheating in online chess, and proving where elevating suspicion is at least as damaging as the actual cheating itself is.

  4. Might be someone else testifying to the accuracy and legitimacy of the first three posts.

Bottom line, if you're going to pin a topic on cheating, the entire first page should be manufactured and rock solid and should leave the reader with the idea that it's completely under control, that they can help report if they find an account to be suspicious, and that they can go ahead and play comfortably knowing that only 1% or 2% might be taking advantage.

<REVISED>

Wait a minute...first 3 posts are actually exactly that.

Disregard.
Well done.

This should definitely be unpinned. There is a clear argument for burying these topics ASAP. It's better that a new one pop up every second day, rather than having the word "cheat" being static and permanent at the top of the forums. If one should be pinned, it should be manufactured where the first 3 comments are all instructive, reassuring, and serve to help correct the problem. 1. Might be instructions on how to report with pictures included. 2. Might be someone testifying to the proficiency of the Lichess anti-cheat division. 3. Might be someone testifying to the minimal nature of cheating in online chess, and proving where elevating suspicion is at least as damaging as the actual cheating itself is. 4. Might be someone else testifying to the accuracy and legitimacy of the first three posts. Bottom line, if you're going to pin a topic on cheating, the entire first page should be manufactured and rock solid and should leave the reader with the idea that it's completely under control, that they can help report if they find an account to be suspicious, and that they can go ahead and play comfortably knowing that only 1% or 2% might be taking advantage. <REVISED> Wait a minute...first 3 posts are actually exactly that. Disregard. Well done.
#26

Here's the rub - in FPS games, people pay not small amounts of money for cheats. Here in chess, cheats are both free (and the same tool one uses to get better) - and if one uses it sparingly, basically unprovable. How can there not be a cheating problem in any online chess site?

Here's the rub - in FPS games, people pay not small amounts of money for cheats. Here in chess, cheats are both free (and the same tool one uses to get better) - and if one uses it sparingly, basically unprovable. How can there not be a cheating problem in any online chess site?
#27

@amwhere If the cheater is undetectable I wouldn't worry too much about it. Beacuse he'll reach a rating that includes that light cheat.

But I doubt most cheaters will be that careful, like everything it escalades, the first day it's one move in a particularly complex correspondance game - The next day the guy has installed bots that challenge Magnus while he sips at his coffee!

@amwhere If the cheater is undetectable I wouldn't worry too much about it. Beacuse he'll reach a rating that includes that light cheat. But I doubt most cheaters will be that careful, like everything it escalades, the first day it's one move in a particularly complex correspondance game - The next day the guy has installed bots that challenge Magnus while he sips at his coffee!
#28

@Hitsugaya A cheater is a cheater. One move or all of them.

@Hitsugaya A cheater is a cheater. One move or all of them.
#29

@Hitsugaya that is completely false. there are plenty of cheaters who are smart like that and stick to it.

@Hitsugaya that is completely false. there are plenty of cheaters who are smart like that and stick to it.
#30

@amwhere If you reread my post you'll see I never deny that.

I'm just saying that undetectability comes with a price and that is: almost no advantage in cheating.

And @puzzlesandpuzzles I wrote "I doubt ...", unless you're in my head you can't say that it's completely false.

@amwhere If you reread my post you'll see I never deny that. I'm just saying that undetectability comes with a price and that is: almost no advantage in cheating. And @puzzlesandpuzzles I wrote "I doubt ...", unless you're in my head you can't say that it's completely false.

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