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How To Catch a Cheater

@sheckley666 said in #19:

On modern operating systems, it is impossible to get the task list without someone entering an admin password.
Plus, it would be illegal in many countries.

The user would have to install a kernel level client on their computer themselves to allow this. But why do such a thing, when we can have secret bots patrol the site looking to snag cheaters?

The cheaters end up with 2 scenarios. Resign to the bots and take a loss, but they don't know if they are playing a bot or another cheater until the game is over. More than likely the cheater will play to win, if not they will take a rating loss to a person which is the reason why they are cheating to begin with, they want their precious rating. The cheater also assumes others are cheating which is why they will play to win even against the secret bot. They will beat the secret bot and get banned.

This is the THE solution. Chess cheating is solved.

@sheckley666 said in #19: > On modern operating systems, it is impossible to get the task list without someone entering an admin password. > Plus, it would be illegal in many countries. The user would have to install a kernel level client on their computer themselves to allow this. But why do such a thing, when we can have secret bots patrol the site looking to snag cheaters? The cheaters end up with 2 scenarios. Resign to the bots and take a loss, but they don't know if they are playing a bot or another cheater until the game is over. More than likely the cheater will play to win, if not they will take a rating loss to a person which is the reason why they are cheating to begin with, they want their precious rating. The cheater also assumes others are cheating which is why they will play to win even against the secret bot. They will beat the secret bot and get banned. This is the THE solution. Chess cheating is solved.

@Dat1_404 said in #27:

This would be somewhat reasonable until someone legitimately beats the bot.

It would be impossible for a person to beat the bot. It will play at a level that is out of reach for a human, but not out of reach of the top chess engines.

@Dat1_404 said in #27: > This would be somewhat reasonable until someone legitimately beats the bot. It would be impossible for a person to beat the bot. It will play at a level that is out of reach for a human, but not out of reach of the top chess engines.

@Toscani said in #35:

Penalization in percentage form: A good deterrent would be to give a player a harder time to join a tournament when they start looking like prodigies or are borderline to being banned. Send a notification warning with a percentage showing how borderline they are. If they are above or below the norm compared to similar rated peers then a notification could be sent. Slowing down the abnormal ways of cheating will be an improvement. Reducing the compensation time in their games would be a last deterrent before getting banned.

Scan the memory, if an add-on is discovered inform them to disable that add-on or justify what it is doing by submitting in the injected code.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunkBuster

I disagree with punishing people who play well, or install invasive programs to monitor their computer while they play. The answer is simple, play the secret bot. If you win, you win the prize of a ban.

@Toscani said in #35: > Penalization in percentage form: A good deterrent would be to give a player a harder time to join a tournament when they start looking like prodigies or are borderline to being banned. Send a notification warning with a percentage showing how borderline they are. If they are above or below the norm compared to similar rated peers then a notification could be sent. Slowing down the abnormal ways of cheating will be an improvement. Reducing the compensation time in their games would be a last deterrent before getting banned. > > Scan the memory, if an add-on is discovered inform them to disable that add-on or justify what it is doing by submitting in the injected code. > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunkBuster I disagree with punishing people who play well, or install invasive programs to monitor their computer while they play. The answer is simple, play the secret bot. If you win, you win the prize of a ban.

@Durtan said in #40:

Why not ?

The most part of cheaters, I guess, are not 100% cheaters. They are first simple gamers, trying to ameliorate their rating. All of them are not artificially rated 2000 and +.

Cheating is a problem at all levels.

@Durtan said in #40: > Why not ? > > The most part of cheaters, I guess, are not 100% cheaters. They are first simple gamers, trying to ameliorate their rating. All of them are not artificially rated 2000 and +. Cheating is a problem at all levels.

@midnightmusicnetwork said in #41:

This is the THE solution. Chess cheating is solved.

This is not the solution. Chess cheating is not solved. And I am closing this topic because you are simply ignoring everything anyone is saying.

@midnightmusicnetwork said in #41: > This is the THE solution. Chess cheating is solved. This is not the solution. Chess cheating is not solved. And I am closing this topic because you are simply ignoring everything anyone is saying.

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