@esmiro said in #20:
> What he was implying is quite clear, if you ever spent some time engaging with alt-right trolls. What he was saying is the following: "she's a transwoman" ---> "she's somehow disresputable" ---> "what she says doesn't matter".
> In case we needed any more hints, he later called me "Soros", so it's obvious, at this point, where he's coming from. I won't engage any further with him because it's useless to do so.
sorry man about the Soros name.it was an autocorrect mistake when i tried to write down ur username but let me ask u sth. If Caruana wears a blonde wig,put some make up on,2 melons for breast and claims he want to compete in womens section as a transgender now is it or isnt it fair for the other women considering the fact that Fabiana Caruana has an elo of 2800
also whats ur thoughts about disneys Ariel the mermaid that now is black
@esmiro said in #20:
> What he was implying is quite clear, if you ever spent some time engaging with alt-right trolls. What he was saying is the following: "she's a transwoman" ---> "she's somehow disresputable" ---> "what she says doesn't matter".
> In case we needed any more hints, he later called me "Soros", so it's obvious, at this point, where he's coming from. I won't engage any further with him because it's useless to do so.
Not precisely. Actually he said that he thought Yosha had tried to break the rules and therefore didn't deserve to be trusted on this matter. And to be clear, again, I don't agree with that, but it's is consistent with how those defending Magnus may be thinking, so I couldn't know if he was making an illustrative point.
I don't know if he is alt-right or alt-left or alt-center, or if Soros somehow proves any of these to be the case, I don't care if Soros is highly regarded by the left or right wing, so I don't know if this confirms your assertion, perhaps it does. If so, then I think this is definitely for another topic and not subject of this title.
@Nomoreusernames said in #22:
> Not precisely. Actually he said that he thought Yosha had tried to break the rules and therefore didn't deserve to be trusted on this matter.
exactly. thanks bro
@kassanen said in #21:
> sorry man about the Soros name.it was an autocorrect mistake when i tried to write down ur username but let me ask u sth. If Caruana wears a blonde wig,put some make up on,2 melons for breast and claims he want to compete in womens section as a transgender now is it or isnt it fair for the other women considering the fact that Fabiana Caruana has an elo of 2800
>
> also whats ur thoughts about disneys Ariel the mermaid that now is black
This is definitely for another topic. And even then, I think you will probably not find many people here to agree with your opinions on these matters, unless it is to explain how your focus on these matters as a conspiracy is opinion rather than having factual basis.
Just as the people are accusing Hans of cheating without proof, and it seems ridiculous to you, think about how you are focussing on things which are coincidental to the matter.
@Nomoreusernames said in #22:
> Not precisely. Actually he said that he thought Yosha had tried to break the rules and therefore didn't deserve to be trusted on this matter. And to be clear, again, I don't agree with that, but it's is consistent with how those defending Magnus may be thinking, so I couldn't know if he was making an illustrative point.
A trans woman advocating for playing in women tournaments does not equate to cheating by any stretch of imagination. It's two completely different topics. Let's compare apples with apples.
As for Carlsen cheating online... come on, let's be real. There's just a video in which a friend tells him a move and he jokingly calls him out because of course he shouldn't have. No person in good faith could seriously compare that single episode to the actual cheating, that is, to use an engine, which is what Niemann admittedly did on chess.com.
@Nomoreusernames said in #24:
> This is definitely for another topic. And even then, I think you will probably not find many people here to agree with your opinions on these matters, unless it is to explain how your focus on these matters as a conspiracy is opinion rather than having factual basis.
>
> Just as the people are accusing Hans of cheating without proof, and it seems ridiculous to you, think about how you are focussing on things which are coincidental to the matter.
true words man i know what u mean. As of hans im gonna stand by the official fide statement. Im definitely opposed to the witch hunt the clickbait tube videos cause deep inside the social media industry every sheep sorry i mean follower matters
Magnus lost all sympathy for how he started a social media witch hunt with no evidence.
Now it does mot even matter, if there was foul play involved.
Because Magnus himself engaged in unfair behavior and attempts to bully his opponent out of tournaments to revenge his ego.
Everyone agrees, that he played mediocre at best when he lost to Hans.
To keep this post short, watch Ben Finegolds take on this for a detailed reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSVj8n9HjEE
@h2b2 said in #15:
> also
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> no one will convince the flat earthers the earth is round
> no one will convince the anti vaxers that vaccines don't cause autism
>
> you do you. have at it hoss. close your mind as tight as you want. no one is going to stop you
Spurious relationship. I'm not a flat Earthers or an anti vaxxer..
@esmiro said in #25:
> A trans woman advocating for playing in women tournaments does not equate to cheating by any stretch of imagination. It's two completely different topics. Let's compare apples with apples.
>
> As for Carlsen cheating online... come on, let's be real. There's just a video in which a friend tells him a move and he jokingly calls him out because of course he shouldn't have. No person in good faith could seriously compare that single episode to the actual cheating, that is, to use an engine, which is what Niemann admittedly did on chess.com.
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Perhaps in your opinion, but accusing someone of trying to cheat by becoming a woman is in the same apple cart as accusing Hans Niemann of cheating over the board in St.Louis because he cheated in an unrated online game when he was a kid. Both are built on the same type of fallacy.
I am explaining to you my reasoning at not accusing someone of being alt-right, not of whether or not of any they are of any political persuasion.
@Nomoreusernames said in #29:
> Perhaps in your opinion, but accusing someone of trying to cheat by becoming a woman is in the same apple cart as accusing Hans Niemann of cheating over the board in St.Louis because he cheated in an unrated online game when he was a kid. Both are built on the same type of fallacy.
This false equivalence is so utterly ridiculous that I wouldn't know where to start to address.
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