#39 Sush..., I am trying to be with my thoughts........ and this is wasting others comment space. PM me more hermetical tit for tat..
@dboing I am worried about your current mental state. You are posting nonsense from the cloud you are currently sitting on, and you are not answering questions for clarification. That's not good. Get your feet back on the ground.
@PixelatedParcel
I don't know about Chessable books. I do know computers.
All of that is technological. They are not real world. Dial back time before computers. Only pencil and paper, telephone and telegraph.
I suppose you can transmit a FEN position through a telegraph. But you can't really talk through a telegraph.
Over the telephone, there is no need for FEN. You would say White King on e1, etc . . .
In a book, you would have a picture.
FEN was designed for computers.
@Long_Quach
#42
I don't mean to be unduly argumentative or contrarian, but your belief that FEN was designed for computers is factually incorrect.
It was, in point of fact, designed long before the advent of computers, at a time when Alexandre Graham Bell and Elisha Gray had only very recently applied for patents relating to work on what would later become a household item revolutionizing human communication. Telegraphy was also relatively recent, certainly as far as making it available to the public at large. To give you some historical context regarding electrical telegraphy in the U.K., the inland telegraph companies only started operating as part of the General Post Office after they were nationalised in 1870. How that impacted life in Scotland Mr Forsyth lived at the time he devised what we today call FEN notation, I don't know...I suspect, however, that neither telephone or telegraph played a great role in chess players lives.
What Mr Forsyth provided with his system of notation was a very simple, concise, useful and ingenious method for taking down end-games and positions of adjourned games. This was the real problem chess players had to deal with in an age before mobile phones existed or were equipped with cameras or people played online and could simply take screenshots and share them via e-mail.
This very same system has remained extremely relevant both for similar purposes as those it was designed for almost 150 years ago but also for understanding the possibilities beneath any given position by loading the FEN into a chess search engine and seeing how masters have treated such a position if it has occurred in the past.
The notation is also incredibly useful when one is lucky enough to have books that can be searched through using FEN and therefore allow one to find the relevant pages in the blink of an eye rather than having to muddle through chapters or indexes in the hopes of finding the relevant information.
You are entirely free to review your position and benefit from this new knowledge going forward or remain entrenched in your unsubstantiated belief.
Whatever your choice may be, I hope this bit of information may help an eventual reader of these lines.
@PixelatedParcel
"Computers" is my way of saying "machines", mechanical.
Tell me smarty pants. What is the purpose of FEN in real life?
I've got another ingenious system of recording adjourned position. Pencil, paper, stamp pad.
Adjourned position can be reconstructed from PGN.
@PixelatedParcel
"The notation is also incredibly useful when one is lucky enough to have books that can be searched through using FEN and therefore allow one to find the relevant pages in the blink of an eye rather than having to muddle through chapters or indexes in the hopes of finding the relevant information."
That is computers.
@Long_Quach
#44
It seems you have construed my desire to enlighten you and any eventual reader of this particular thread as some need of mine to "one-up you in knowledge"...
Nothing could be further from the truth but since we are now clearly on a disagreeable path, I'll simply refrain from any further exchange with you and trust you will also see the wisdom in doing same so we can both continue on our own separate paths towards more enjoyable endeavours. ;D
@Long_Quach
"Tell me smarty pants. What is the purpose of FEN in real life?"
I'll be the smarty pants. I'll answer it.
FEN is good for MECHANICAL transmission through a telegraph (if you haven't already transmit move by move already).
@Long_Quach
"Tell me smarty pants. What is the purpose of FEN in real life?"
Inside job bank robbery. You write down the position of things, vault, guards, exits. You write it down a strip of paper in FEN and hide it in a fortune cookie. Your buddies pick up the cookie in a Chinese restaurant. No one can connect you to your buddies.
This thread about chess data exchange formats is too hostile for my taste. *Unsubscribes*
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