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Could you create a server to create Swiss face-to-face tournaments?

The idea is that liches organize a Swiss tournament, or all against all, and the data of the list of players is entered, and the results in each stage and lichess organizes the matches and confrontations.

The idea is that liches organize a Swiss tournament, or all against all, and the data of the list of players is entered, and the results in each stage and lichess organizes the matches and confrontations.

@GritoDeGuerra said in #1:

The idea is that liches organize a Swiss tournament, or all against all, and the data of the list of players is entered, and the results in each stage and lichess organizes the matches and confrontations.

Why? There are already plenty of OTB tournaments, at least in the US. I don't know about Uruguay, but I'm sure you could find some.

Or if you're saying you want software to organize your own tournament, you could try Coronate (https://johnridesa.bike/software/coronate/). It's a web app, and you can use the public instance (https://coronate.netlify.app/) or run your own instance.

@GritoDeGuerra said in #1: > The idea is that liches organize a Swiss tournament, or all against all, and the data of the list of players is entered, and the results in each stage and lichess organizes the matches and confrontations. Why? There are already plenty of OTB tournaments, at least in the US. I don't know about Uruguay, but I'm sure you could find some. Or if you're saying you want software to organize your own tournament, you could try Coronate (https://johnridesa.bike/software/coronate/). It's a web app, and you can use the public instance (https://coronate.netlify.app/) or run your own instance.

I think it is strategic that liches have a face-to-face tournament manager. Nor does lichess have an online free-for-all tournament manager (aimed at small groups, I hope lichess will listen to me, this idea is important, I'm an administrator of small groups in liches and I don't have how to organize all-contracted tournaments)

I think it is strategic that liches have a face-to-face tournament manager. Nor does lichess have an online free-for-all tournament manager (aimed at small groups, I hope lichess will listen to me, this idea is important, I'm an administrator of small groups in liches and I don't have how to organize all-contracted tournaments)

@GritoDeGuerra said in #3:

but is it gpl? gratuitous?

It's not licensed under the GPL, but rather the MPL, which is also a free license. It's free as in both libre and gratis.

@GritoDeGuerra said in #3: > but is it gpl? gratuitous? It's not licensed under the GPL, but rather the MPL, which is also a free license. It's free as in both libre and gratis.

@GritoDeGuerra said in #4:

I think it is strategic that liches have a face-to-face tournament manager.
Nope, strategy is not going after everything some one happens to need. Lichess is ONLINE chess server. It should put it scarce resources to make it even better on that.

Going after OTB tournament software is quite non-sensical as there are several offerings on that do the stuff already available online like https://tornelo.com/pairings/, https://swissonlinetournament.com/
and several others.
Tornelo is FIDE accepted but that is probably non issue for you

@GritoDeGuerra said in #4: > I think it is strategic that liches have a face-to-face tournament manager. Nope, strategy is not going after everything some one happens to need. Lichess is ONLINE chess server. It should put it scarce resources to make it even better on that. Going after OTB tournament software is quite non-sensical as there are several offerings on that do the stuff already available online like https://tornelo.com/pairings/, https://swissonlinetournament.com/ and several others. Tornelo is FIDE accepted but that is probably non issue for you

I would think it fairly easy to set up a Linux server and host games on that with some understanding of server software, but as a canned package I know of nothing. Linux has also gotten far less useful in the past decade, to a point where the GUI is basically useless, and setting up a system is profoundly more difficult. I use old versions which are far more intuitive for my web/ftp server applications, but never looked into a chess game server. I'd suggest looking there.

@AsDaGo said in #2:

Why? There are already plenty of OTB tournaments, at least in the US. I don't know about Uruguay, but I'm sure you could find some.

The US is a pretty big place.... I'm not sure where your'e talking about, but I live in the 5th most populous state in the US, and there's no OTB chess within 3 hours drive of me, one way. None.

I would think it fairly easy to set up a Linux server and host games on that with some understanding of server software, but as a canned package I know of nothing. Linux has also gotten far less useful in the past decade, to a point where the GUI is basically useless, and setting up a system is profoundly more difficult. I use old versions which are far more intuitive for my web/ftp server applications, but never looked into a chess game server. I'd suggest looking there. @AsDaGo said in #2: > Why? There are already plenty of OTB tournaments, at least in the US. I don't know about Uruguay, but I'm sure you could find some. The US is a pretty big place.... I'm not sure where your'e talking about, but I live in the 5th most populous state in the US, and there's no OTB chess within 3 hours drive of me, one way. None.
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@V1g1yy said in #7:

The US is a pretty big place.... I'm not sure where your'e talking about, but I live in the 5th most populous state in the US, and there's no OTB chess within 3 hours drive of me, one way. None.

Your national or regional chess federation will likely have a listing of over-the-board tournaments: https://new.uschess.org/upcoming-tournaments?combine=&field_event_address_administrative_area=PA&field_online_event_value=2&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmin%5D=&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmax%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bvalue%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bsource_configuration%5D%5Borigin_address%5D=

If there are none, you could try starting your own chess club: https://new.uschess.org/guide-successful-chess-club

@V1g1yy said in #7: > The US is a pretty big place.... I'm not sure where your'e talking about, but I live in the 5th most populous state in the US, and there's no OTB chess within 3 hours drive of me, one way. None. Your national or regional chess federation will likely have a listing of over-the-board tournaments: https://new.uschess.org/upcoming-tournaments?combine=&field_event_address_administrative_area=PA&field_online_event_value=2&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmin%5D=&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmax%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bvalue%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bsource_configuration%5D%5Borigin_address%5D= If there are none, you could try starting your own chess club: https://new.uschess.org/guide-successful-chess-club

@CaseyReese said in #9:

Your national or regional chess federation will likely have a listing of over-the-board tournaments: new.uschess.org/upcoming-tournaments?combine=&field_event_address_administrative_area=PA&field_online_event_value=2&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmin%5D=&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmax%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bvalue%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bsource_configuration%5D%5Borigin_address%5D=

If there are none, you could try starting your own chess club: new.uschess.org/guide-successful-chess-club

Yes, there are listings to look at, just no tournaments.

As to starting one, I tried that also last year. Provided a venue, got some players, but in order to hold events that are rated, you need involvement by a USCF TD and of course before you say, well just become one of them; A: that takes an incredible commitment to travel, money and time, and B: Once you've done that you can no longer participate in the events you direct. Not exactly a system that's conducive to increasing involvement. I eventually gave up on it as my investment in time wasn't worth the number of people that could attend the events. Even situated on a college campus and meeting on Saturdays, we never got a single student to join us. At the second venue I had that would be even less likely.

All I'm saying is from central PA, you're going to be traveling quite a bit. And I suspect there's plenty of places in the US where you're not going to find anything remotely close enough for the average person to participate. If you live outside a big city (and sometimes even if you live in one), it's quite a trek...

@CaseyReese said in #9: > Your national or regional chess federation will likely have a listing of over-the-board tournaments: new.uschess.org/upcoming-tournaments?combine=&field_event_address_administrative_area=PA&field_online_event_value=2&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmin%5D=&field_event_dates_occurrences%5Bmax%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bvalue%5D=&field_geofield_proximity%5Bsource_configuration%5D%5Borigin_address%5D= > > If there are none, you could try starting your own chess club: new.uschess.org/guide-successful-chess-club Yes, there are listings to look at, just no tournaments. As to starting one, I tried that also last year. Provided a venue, got some players, but in order to hold events that are rated, you need involvement by a USCF TD and of course before you say, well just become one of them; A: that takes an incredible commitment to travel, money and time, and B: Once you've done that you can no longer participate in the events you direct. Not exactly a system that's conducive to increasing involvement. I eventually gave up on it as my investment in time wasn't worth the number of people that could attend the events. Even situated on a college campus and meeting on Saturdays, we never got a single student to join us. At the second venue I had that would be even less likely. All I'm saying is from central PA, you're going to be traveling quite a bit. And I suspect there's plenty of places in the US where you're not going to find anything remotely close enough for the average person to participate. If you live outside a big city (and sometimes even if you live in one), it's quite a trek...

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